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pueno
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| stevenbard wrote: | | Obama and Bush have destroyed the American middle class. |
How did Obama destroy the American middle class?
By not totally repairing the unbelievable damage caused by Bush, Cheney, and the neo-cons?
By not reducing income taxes to the top 1% even further?
By trying to support new high-tech green industries, which employ Americans?
By trying to encourage infrastructure jobs to repair America and employ American workers?
By saving the American auto industry?
Or by shifting jobs to China? Oh, wait........ that was Romney.
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isobars
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| mrgybe wrote: | | GT, you have my sympathies. Windmills do indeed desecrate the beautiful English countryside. |
I see many hundreds, maybe thousands, of them each time I drive through the Columbia Basin/Gorge. I know they're a boondoggle, their blades have been known to all but shut down traffic when being transported, and there's nothing scenic about them, but I choose not to get upset about the visual blight and I pass the scores to hundreds of cars piled up behind blades on the highway.
Fortunately, the latter of those two "buts" is very rare and the former is a choice. However, I cannot so easily dismiss what they represent: politics and ignorance that will gravely harm our nation and the world if the global or even just the national powers throw science and reason out the window and kowtow to anything remotely resembling the IPCC's or the UN's demands for immediate and extreme global wealth redistribution, formerly excused by "socialism" and now by "AGW". Same game, different name. |
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KGB-NP
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| stevenbard wrote: | California is booming if you own financial assets or have a job with a large corporation of the government.
Otherwise you are fooling yourself. I placed a Craigslist ad looking for a tradesman. I offered $12.50 per hour. I'm getting 50+ resumes per day, and pleading phone calls of family men looking for work. Liberals, stop patting yourselves on the back. Obama and Bush have destroyed the American middle class. YOU SHOULD HEAR THE PHONE CALLS I GET. |
Our economy has been steady and strong, and I've experienced 15 years of steady growth. I've placed those ads on kijiji but have never included an hourly rate. Speaking from experience....quantity rarely translates to quality, a cheap hourly rate usually helps to guarantees that too. I've found that even when I place a well define and descriptive ad of what I am looking for that everyone and their dog still responds. Wait and see what shows up....but you might get lucky, who knows. Personally I don't want to pay people cheap when I'm pulling in a good six figure income. I have 4 full time guys on the books, and the lowest on the totem pole makes $25 / hr plus the added expense of WSIB and source deductions (approx. 20%). I hope you luck out, but it's never been my experience....like everything, you get what you pay for. |
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mrgybe
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| GURGLETROUSERS wrote: | | So much for windmills! |
Britain is a world "leader" in wind power. The British now painfully understand the stark difference between capacity and output. Typically they have experienced output of one third to one fifth of capacity. Coal and gas plants have to be constantly available to provide reliable backup power. In addition, there is growing evidence that turbine output diminishes dramatically after 10 years or so. |
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isobars
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| It's all them eagle guts stuck to the blades. |
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swchandler
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Bard, what are you fishing for at $12.50 hour. Maybe an illegal that will work for cash? I have to say that I'm with reinerehlers. You get what you pay for. |
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MalibuGuru
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| swchandler wrote: | | Bard, what are you fishing for at $12.50 hour. Maybe an illegal that will work for cash? I have to say that I'm with reinerehlers. You get what you pay for. |
I was looking for a helper, not a lead guy, but what I got was a lot of lead guys in desperate need. Like I've said before, wages are down both anecdotally and statistically. By letting in 10 million more low wage workers, we've damaged the ability of the middle class to recover. If it weren't for 50 million people on some sort of welfare wages would be $5 per hour.
Meanwhile GT may experience blackout conditions (like WW2) because of the governments folly. |
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coboardhead
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| mrgybe wrote: | | GURGLETROUSERS wrote: | | So much for windmills! |
Britain is a world "leader" in wind power. The British now painfully understand the stark difference between capacity and output. Typically they have experienced output of one third to one fifth of capacity. Coal and gas plants have to be constantly available to provide reliable backup power. In addition, there is growing evidence that turbine output diminishes dramatically after 10 years or so. |
This is the first I have heard of a "dramatic" drop in turbine efficiency in 10 years. Do you have a source? We all know that any electric motor losses efficiency over time. How many percentage points in a "dramatic"? |
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mac
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| CB--aren't you glad you didn't hold your breath? Re-read mrgybe's message to see how he sees himself. Elegant and devastatingly handsome? Monty Python's take: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSqkdcT25ss |
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mrgybe
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| coboardhead wrote: | | This is the first I have heard of a "dramatic" drop in turbine efficiency in 10 years. Do you have a source? We all know that any electric motor losses efficiency over time. How many percentage points in a "dramatic"? |
http://www.ref.org.uk/publications/280-analysis-of-wind-farm-performance-in-uk-and-denmark
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"The normalised load factor for UK onshore wind farms declines from a peak of about 24% at age 1 to 15% at age 10 and 11% at age 15. The decline in the normalised load factor for Danish onshore wind farms is slower but still significant with a fall from a peak of 22% to 18% at age 15. On the other hand for offshore wind farms in Denmark the normalised load factor falls from 39% at age 0 to 15% at age 10. The reasons for the observed declines in normalised load factorscannot be fully assessed using the data available but outages due to mechanical breakdowns appear to be a contributory factor." |
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