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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny ding.....
After windsurfing 30 years, I can tack a 72 liter board from starboard to port, but still can't tack a 109 liter board from port to starboard.
Heck, I have trouble tacking my 145 liter board from port to starboard.
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tstizzle



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
I have to say that for me, there's some strange barrier around the
85 ltr mark for tacking. 90 Ltrs and above, is probable, but below 90 ltrs
is really sketchy (though I can get lucky on the 80 ltr 1 direction).

-Craig


i'm the same way. except it's the presence of water that blows it for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zirtaeb wrote:
Funny ding.....
After windsurfing 30 years, I can tack a 72 liter board from starboard to port, but still can't tack a 109 liter board from port to starboard.
Heck, I have trouble tacking my 145 liter board from port to starboard.


man, i thought you are goofy foot? i always blamed everything on goofy vs regular foot.

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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can switch foot on a funboard, and turn really well, but....
In windsurfing, I can't get TO goof, because coming from reg, I don't have any balance whatsoever.
My ratio of success on inside tacks at Berkeley is around 10%, in the flat water, in the lighter winds. Not great. It killed me when I was hanging with the Formula sailors for a few years.
Worse, it takes about 5 tiny steps, while goof to reg takes one jump.
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DanWeiss



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
SNIP

I was doing instantaneous pivot jibes in the air -- both feet off the board while neither hand touched the spinning rig -- in the ‘80s, but now very seldom perceive a need for them, and easily get disoriented when I try them. I can’t even look upwards without losing my balance. SNIP

To think people still wonder why my posts are long!


No, people do not wonder why your posts are long. Trust me.

A pivot jibe, done either on a short or longboard, requires foot and rig pressure. You say neither feet not hands were in contact with anything. A pivot jibe also is different than a snap jibe, the former being quite a bit slower in approach and execution than the latter.

I honestly wonder how you were able to do an "instantaneous pivot jibe" without touching your windsurfing gear. How did you manage to do it?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
...writing tutorials promulgated worldwide…

I think it’s despicable that so many people here try so damned hard to not only insist that their way is the only way but also to demonize people suggesting alternatives even in the face of others who support them. Talk about discouraging anything new and different!...


When I post to the web, I suppose it might be argued my ideas are promulgated worldwide, but most of us realize that this forum is read by a select few and don't inflate our egos beyond that. Do tell, where might I buy one of these groundbreaking worldwide tutorials?

You have outdone your self with the second half of that paragraph, for you have described yourself perfectly.
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youwindsurf



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

windoggie wrote:
Iso, do you choke your chicken left handed or right handed?


Apparently he can do it neither handed.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey..this is a sailing forum! Please use "port" or "starboard".
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jingebritsen



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i jump better on the port side, and wave ride better, yet i tack the most yet worst when going to starboard. set up for port tack is a SB entry.... maybe the wave on the inside on my most typical weather condition has helped me do them better, contrary to my other preferred side? dunno.
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rich1



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to address the falling issue a bit more. I guess it's an individual thing, but I'm working on tacking my 80l wave board and almost never sail out of them. Thing is though, I'm almost always left in a good water start position and I'm further upwind than I would be had I made a good pivot jibe. So when there's enough wind, to me at least, working on my tacks is a win win. Schlogging for me is usually heli tacks or pivot jibes, as either provide a higher degree of success. I know that there are lots of folks out there who can tack a sinker in sub planing conditions but that's a pretty serious skill.
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