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frederick23



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:42 am    Post subject: Windsurfing at the North Pole Reply with quote

From 1980-2008. Press play.
http://deepseanews.com/2013/01/visualization-vednesdays-where-has-all-the-sea-ice-gone/
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isobars



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's physically impossible to sail at the true North Pole. Every direction from the Pole is south, the wind AT the Pole is thus always out of the south, and we can't sail directly upwind. We're stuck there. We'd have to swim south ... i.e., any direction ... a few feet first.

This presents an interesting (or not) dilemma. Say we're near the Pole on a reach towards the pole. As we cross it, WTF happens? Do we hit a headwind (see previous paragraph).

Smile

Maybe a planing tack would solve the problem. Very Happy
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frederick23



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely Fu#ked. Groundhog day.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is impossible to sail at any single point on earth. You would always be sailing away from that point.
You can sail toward or away from a point.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Windsurfing at the North Pole Reply with quote

frederick23 wrote:
From 1980-2008. Press play.
http://deepseanews.com/2013/01/visualization-vednesdays-where-has-all-the-sea-ice-gone/


Have you not been watching all the news reports about the increase in ice, both N and S? They just had to rescue a ship from the ice in the Antarctic because it got frozen in place. Now this would not be odd, except that it is the middle of summer down there.

Also the quickest growth of ice in history in the Northern hemisphere FYI.
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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you not paid any attention to the response I gave you for your simplistic misunderstanding? Pay attention!
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thelocal.se/20140119/temperatures-hit-41-in-swedish-cold-snap

An all time low temperature in Sweden today at -41 degrees f. In 1973, I swam in the Fjords of the arctic circle. Record low temperatures around the globe and the alarmists are still waving their hands.
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weather, Bard. Have you always had trouble paying attention?
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Weather, Bard. Have you always had trouble paying attention?


When the "weather" is cold just about everywhere on the planet I take notice to the trend.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.weather.com/news/science/environment/november-2013-global-temperature-was-hottest-record-20131217

November 2013 warmest on record worldwide. Trend or anomoly? Funny how the unusual cold attracts attention and the unusual warmth doesn't. Skeptic or denier? We could cherry pick data all day!
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