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beaglebuddy



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
490 RDMs are actually fairly rare in the marketplace. I could be wrong, but I think that only Gulftech and NoLimitz manufacture 490 RDMs.


Hot Sails ultra 490 RDM made in Eastern Europe Slovenia, Slovakia, one of those Borat countries, Loft Sails RDM up to 550! also I believe made in Eastern Europe probably the same place.
Kilwell New Zealand no longer making the Hot Sails masts so probably down to just two manufacturers, Borat and Nolimitz, maybe China for someone?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the shear number of people that are seeking mediocrity concerning this one topic alone is disheartening. if one wishes to have durability at all costs, then one becomes discouraged based on a large number of unknowns? case in point, my example of the numbers that noticed the difference between the RDM and SDM 6.5's in that test several years back. how many simply get disgusted with performance of their equipment, don't seek to find out why, and narrow their tastes of wind to eventually quit? seen that far too often.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thicker wall of the RDM over the SDM also means added weight and cost. So with a greater cost/weight & loss in performance, Iím not surprised that more brands have not jumped on the RDM bandwagon for longer masts. Iím with John on this issue. My larger SDMs are 8-10 years old and going strong. The only masts Iíve broken in the last couple of years are RDMs, 370 & 400 but then that is to be expected as the small sails get used in extreme conditions.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did he say where the masts were breaking? I see some people who insist on crushing their masts with the boom clamp.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've got a SDM 400 that allows me to tension my 4.0 and 4.7 and keep a full leading edge way past what an RDM allows. i use it when the wind is doing that funky 28 to 48 kind shit. had it for over a decade.

i use an RDM 370 or 400 when the waves are large and the wind is more steady with far kess tension on my sails.

having the right stuff for the right conditions is worth the space and budget. again, i've had lots of my SDM's for years.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beaglebuddy wrote:
swchandler wrote:
490 RDMs are actually fairly rare in the marketplace. I could be wrong, but I think that only Gulftech and NoLimitz manufacture 490 RDMs.


Hot Sails ultra 490 RDM made in Eastern Europe Slovenia, Slovakia, one of those Borat countries, Loft Sails RDM up to 550! also I believe made in Eastern Europe probably the same place.
Kilwell New Zealand no longer making the Hot Sails masts so probably down to just two manufacturers, Borat and Nolimitz, maybe China for someone?


NeilPryde makes 490 520 & 550 masts.

If you go on the Hot Sais Maul Site and "Shop on Line" , you will find the !00% Carbon, Hit Rod TEAM WAVE mast, this is made by Kidwell,Rotarun, New Zealand. AFAIK HSM are not stocking this its by special order only.

The Ultra IS made in Slovenia. Southern Central Europe , Hungary is close.

The HotRod 97% & Nuevo are made in Neihei, China.

Chinook say they are made in Eastern Europe.. secret.

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