Polio eradicated in India

[mac]

"funded in part" tripped you up, eh?

[keycocker]

Gybe is correct in the stuff he said he spent fifteen minutes looking up.
The problem he is having is with his limited experience in third world charities and other NGOs.
He does seem to have picked up a little from talking to those in the field.

I run an NGO, am on the board of another, and have served or advised about a dozen others over a thirty year period.
Where there is no gov. to provide security, roads, airports, water, and central support it is very difficult for the other organizations to get much done.
Many pull out, leaving Medecin Sans Frontieres and other heroic outfits to work alone.

Even some of the deeply corrupt and ineffecient governments help a lot.

I detest big gov. but as a real world conservative I understand the important functions of gov.and have seen in person all my adult life the result of small crappy gov. The bloated mess in the US is much preferable

[J64TWB]

Well said.

[mrgybe]

At last the former resident of Belize has said something that is accurate. There is indeed no comparison between his experience and mine. 21 years of direct involvement with malaria prevention and other life sustaining services in more than 20 African counties does not compare with reef preservation in tourist destinations like Belize and Maui. His assumption that there are government provided roads, airports, security and central support systems give a clear indication of the "third world" with which he is familiar. None of those things are provided in many of the areas we serve.........as for water, water sanitation and hygiene is one of our biggest challenges.

Must dash. Preparing for a meeting with the leadership of one of the oldest and largest Africa NGOs in the morning. Google "Maui NGOs". See how many results you get.

[keycocker]

Gybe is inventing life histories for me too.
His heroism is legendary throughout the third world.
His involvement in NGOs consists of name dropping those in the field with whom he dines.

Countries with no water, security, roads, and airports only exist in his James Bond fantasies.
They bring malaria med aid into those countries with flying saucers flown by posturing buffoons.
The guy has been bragging his whole life about his exalted status in the third world and finally met someone who easily outed him.

As I was saying, even gov. in countries with unreliable water, rough roads, bad security can be very useful for his friends who work for NGOs.

[pueno]

[mac]

KC--it's kind of funny to be the target of mrgybe's sniping. In my experience, accomplished people usually don't have such a desperate need to flaunt their efforts, particularly by trying to pull others down. But I'm guessing that England didn't have programs to intervene with those with low self-esteem when he was in elementary school.

Ah, but the clues keep amassing. Now he says that he was a key player in Exxon's malaria campaign. Most corporations have giving campaigns, and they teach corporate staffs (if they pay attention) about the necessity of collaborating with NGO's and yes, governments. The EXXON site says precious little about their efforts http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/community/malaria-initiative, and it is interesting that they brag about their working with NGO's (e.g. a grant of $200,000 to the Norwegian Red Cross), but say precious little about working with governments. Of course, working with governments in Africa may be different than working with governments in the United States, and mrgybe has perhaps not made the translation needed to understand his adopted country.

[keycocker]

It is easy to see those with limited experience in the field who are faking it.
They posture a lot and denigrate others in every statement.
Those real heros out there behave very differently because of their experiences, no matter what pompous fools they were in school.
It changes you.

[mrgybe]

[mrgybe]