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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject: Go Warren! Reply with quote

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/15/politics/gop-and-elizabeth-warren/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I don't care if she runs or not. I like the narrative - Who in politics is looking out for the middle class?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You, I agree that Warren is more human than Hillary.

However, if you think big government and high taxes will protect the middle class, you're smoking something. IMO, the Teas have a far more logical path to protecting the middle class.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
You, I agree that Warren is more human than Hillary.

However, if you think big government and high taxes will protect the middle class, you're smoking something. IMO, the Teas have a far more logical path to protecting the middle class.


Which is what?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"IMO, the Teas have a far more logical path to protecting the middle class."


youwindsurf beat me to it, but I was hoping that you could discuss your comment and offer us some background and specifics. I'm not talking about empty words and tired talking points about how the tea party represents freedom, the constitution and our founders. Hopefully you've got something that is truly logical and meaningful.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Go Warren! Reply with quote

youwindsurf wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/15/politics/gop-and-elizabeth-warren/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I don't care if she runs or not. I like the narrative - Who in politics is looking out for the middle class?

I like Warren, but I like her in the Senate. If the Dems want to win, Hillary is the ticket....I'm hoping Warren doesnt run, she could damage to Hillary in the primary by pulling her left...the same way Newt And rick pulled Mittens right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll probably vote for Warren in the Ca primary. Laughing

As for the Teas, the vast majority are small businessmen and women who believe in small government and personal responsibility. I suppose if you think small government with more small businesses are harmful to the economy, then you're Coo Coo for Coco Puffs. (BECAUSE SMALL BUSINESS IS THE ENGINE FOR JOB CREATION)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
I'll probably vote for Warren in the Ca primary. Laughing

As for the Teas, the vast majority are small businessmen and women who believe in small government and personal responsibility. I suppose if you think small government with more small businesses are harmful to the economy, then you're Coo Coo for Coco Puffs. (BECAUSE SMALL BUSINESS IS THE ENGINE FOR JOB CREATION)


That's a big vague is it not? How would government be made smaller? In what way should people be more responsible?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cut government to the size it was when Clinton left office, (adjusted for inflation), for starters. This would allow small business to keep more of their capital to create jobs. Big business isn't creating jobs. (except minimum wage) Yeah, I know silicon valley is.

FYI, Boggs, Drukenmiller and others came out today with the complaint that all big business has been doing (to get the stock market up), is borrow cheap money, buy back their own shares, and profit from the spread.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE NOT INVESTING IN THE FUTURE, THEY ARE BORROWING FROM IT LIKE THE FED!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Cut government to the size it was when Clinton left office, (adjusted for inflation), for starters. This would allow small business to keep more of their capital to create jobs. Big business isn't creating jobs. (except minimum wage) Yeah, I know silicon valley is.

FYI, Boggs, Drukenmiller and others came out today with the complaint that all big business has been doing (to get the stock market up), is borrow cheap money, buy back their own shares, and profit from the spread.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE NOT INVESTING IN THE FUTURE, THEY ARE BORROWING FROM IT LIKE THE FED!!

Including Stanley...who is printing money himself. Crazy hypocrisy. As for small business, they are the #1 reason we dont have a lower corporate tax rate.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all the crony capitalism, I don't care about "big business". I do care about people with less than $50 million who are creating jobs. This is where the focus should be.

What does small business have to do with corporate tax rates?
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