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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless personal rates go down , which isn't happening, small biz is adamantly opposed to lowering the corp tax rate, as it would put them at an even bigger disadvantage , because 90% of small businesses pay taxes at the individual rate. Many feel the high corp rate is really hurting our growth,and forcing companies to domicile in foreign countries . IMO the big boxing if America is the number 1 reason small biz is at a competitive disadvantage .
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
I agree that Warren is more human than Hillary.
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But nevertheless an Alinsky socialist like Hillary, proven by the crap both of them spew.

Obama, another Alinsky worshiper, recently said that now is a great time to be born. That should scare the crap out of everyone who understands what our country is founded on and where it's headed if another Alinsky sap succeeds him.

I just saw the movie "America". As we were leaving our seats, the National Anthem began on the screen. A man about my age stopped, turned to face the screen, removed his baseball cap, and stood at attention until it ended. The whole audience followed his example.

He gets it. Today's brainwashed idiots don't. They actually believe the garbage Alinsky, Ayers, Chomsky, Zinn, etc. spew. That's sad, but fortunately many of the millennials are starting to understand what BS those America-haters espouse and are turning away from it and from this devastating president.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
stevenbard wrote:
I agree that Warren is more human than Hillary.
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But nevertheless an Alinsky socialist like Hillary, proven by the crap both of them spew.

Obama, another Alinsky worshiper, recently said that now is a great time to be born. That should scare the crap out of everyone who understands what our country is founded on and where it's headed if another Alinsky sap succeeds him.

I just saw the movie "America". As we were leaving our seats, the National Anthem began on the screen. A man about my age stopped, turned to face the screen, removed his baseball cap, and stood at attention until it ended. The whole audience followed his example.

He gets it. Today's brainwashed idiots don't. They actually believe the garbage Alinsky, Ayers, Chomsky, Zinn, etc. spew. That's sad, but fortunately many of the millennials are starting to understand what BS those America-haters espouse and are turning away from it and from this devastating president.


There is no single definition of "America". Clearly, your idea of what America is and should be is far different than mine.

The film maker's version of America is quite interesting - He is a convicted felon and "[i]n 2012, D’ Souza resigned from his post as president of evangelical King’s College in New York following reports that he attended a South Carolina conference on Christian values accompanied by Denise Joseph and introduced her as his fiancee despite the fact that he was still married at the time to another woman.

He later said in a statement he’d been separated from his wife for two years and “had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles to be engaged prior to being divorced, even though in a state of separation and in divorce proceedings.” http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/dinesh-dsouza-pleads-guilty-illegal-campaign-contribution-106882.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell does that have to do with D’ Souza's love for this country?
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uwindsurf



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does he love about the county? Apparently not the religious and social mores. Certainly not the laws. What then? That he can make money spewing a bunch of crap? What a country!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
What the hell does that have to do with D’ Souza's love for this country?

I don't know what you're referring to, but I'd sure like to see any of these lefties disprove any of D'Souza's basic claims as presented in the movie, considering that he had to omit a lot of details to cram his story into a hundred minutes. I will never forget one of these loons' serious claims several years ago that his example of a political centrist is Noam Chomsky.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youwindsurf wrote:
What does he love about the county? Apparently not the religious and social mores. Certainly not the laws. What then? That he can make money spewing a bunch of crap? What a country!

Good job, from your perspective, of answering your own question, but you didn't answer mine.
Typ. Lib.
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the logic of the left...Obama raises over a billion $. D'Souza raises 20k through his friends, and the FEC investigates and he pleads to a lesser charge. Otherwise he risks prison. What a country.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard,
How do you reconcile the Teas high standards with the very low standards of leaders like Palin, Bachman, Cruz?
Why do Teas vote for the 40+ Tea congressmen who have done nothing to achieve those goals?
The opinion folks have of the Teas derives from their choice of leaders.

I think their declining popularity could be turned around in a single election season by voting out the trash they support and putting in the kind of leaders that do something other than slam small business with useless shutdowns.
Instead I read on their site that they are planning more blows against the US economy to make political points.
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a fan of many Tea Party leaders. I am a fan of grass roots shake up the political system at all costs. You know the Teas on Maui are small business/fiscal conservative regular folks. The ones I met had no hateful rhetoric or goals.

Palin and others don't necessarily stand for change. They just have big megaphones.
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