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biffmalibu
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| youwindsurf wrote: | I think you are confusing Disorderly conduct with Assault.
Bottom line, you do have a constitutional right to flip off cops. But anyone with good sense probably shouldn't exercise it.
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No, I am not confused. I pretty much stated the same concept. It's easy to go back and read; there isn't too much of my statement to review. But of course this medium is far inferior to a bonafide conversation between live 4-D humans.
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CUSalin
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:07 am Post subject: |
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"Your mother was a spirochete and your father smelled of elderberries! I fart in your general direction!"
Yes, it is a beautiful evening isn't it?
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ImmigrantJesus
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Somehow got to agree. I have always assumed that if somebody can jibe into me (on the same tack) then I am somewhat to blame. It irks me a little if it is in the middle of the river - assume it will happen (and avoid it) if it is on one of the far sides. The fact is that someone ahead and near upwind of you is going to jibe sometime... |
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johnl
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| WndsrfInvstr wrote: | | The fact is that someone ahead and near upwind of you is going to jibe sometime... |
UNLESS they tack or throw a trick  Or go directly into the shore to stop.  |
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Bond1
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| johnl wrote: | | WndsrfInvstr wrote: | | The fact is that someone ahead and near upwind of you is going to jibe sometime... |
UNLESS they tack or throw a trick Or go directly into the shore to stop. |
But only at the edges of the river, not in the middle. |
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johnl
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah I think a better plan is to expect people to do SOMETHING when they get to the edges of the river. But they can always do something in the middle also (don't follow me close). Maybe we should just keep it simple and look out for each other.... |
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uwindsurf
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| biffmalibu wrote: | | I believe the police routinely successfully charge even the middle finger to be threat of assault. Be careful no cops (who are in a bad mood) are around when flipping the bird! |
This statement is why I thought you were confused. Flipping the bird is not assault unless combined with another act creating a reasonable fear in the person given the bird. Disorderly conduct does not require the additional act creating reasonable fear.
If you are not confused, my apology. |
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isobars
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Bond1 wrote: | | But only at the edges of the river, not in the middle. |
Folks playing on the swell very often slash 90 to 180 degrees ANYWHERE, very often, and far too spontaneously to predict. It's very smart not to follow them in their lee. |
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isobars
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone who gets angry about being flipped off or cursed out is an idiot, plain and simple. Besides being protected speech -- even to a cop last I heard -- it's a big So What? No one with a healthy ego REALLY want to get arrested and jailed just because some idiot insults them. |
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isobars
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| biffmalibu wrote: | | Considering how easy it is to carry out any threat via means (fist, large stick, gun, etc.) |
That, under many circumstances (any dangerous weapon including a BIG fist or martial arts expertise), is usually considered aggravated assault, aka ADW. One goes that far to protect his life, not his lunch or his ego. |
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