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mthompson156
Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 29 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:23 pm Post subject: Large light-air wave board and sail quiver questions |
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Hey guys - I had posted last month about getting a larger board to push my 5.0, but I have decided (as most recommended) to get both a larger board and sail, mainly for fall sailing. So two questions:
1. For a board, I would like something large that is pretty wavy so I can use it for both SF bay sailing in marginal fall winds and also in light-air coastal waves. So, I still want something that will plane decently, but absolute early planing is no longer the top priority since I will have a larger sail (6.0+) as well. Right now, I am looking at the Angulo Chango 109. I'm pretty certain this board will be great in light waves, my question is: will this board be ok with a 6.2 or so in the SF Bay in floods? I know how a freeride-style board of this size would sail with a 6.0, just wondering if the wave rocker will significantly alter how it will perform for flat-water planing (obviously it will a little...but drastically?)
2. For a sail, I am thinking something like a 6.2 or 6.3. This would be a direct jump from my 5.0 and 85 liter board -- I think this gap is fine, any thoughts on that? I now have tight spacing under 5.0 (4.5, 4.2, 3.7), but I feel like you can go much wider on the larger stuff. It would be used both in the bay (mostly) and the waves on the coast (not as frequent).
I weigh 160 if that factors in at all to any suggestions.
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gvogelsang
Joined: 09 Nov 1988 Posts: 435
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Exocet X-Cross 115?
Or X-Wave 111? |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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I weigh 160, and I sail exclusively in the waves (when they're waves, which is most of the time but not always), I'm riding a Starboard Evo 92 Lt. that was given to me, with a 5.7 Ezzy Elite when it's really light. It keeps me going just fine when there is hardly any whitecaps, but I do need whitecaps to be able to sail, anything lighter than that, then it's best to go onto a SUP board with a sail attached, IMO. |
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manuel
Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 1158
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried power wave sails? What kind of wind speed and wave size are we talking about here?
I sail a 105 / 63cm single fin when it's light out (15-18 knots max). I take out a 5.4 alpha, it works. Maybe 5.7 would be better when really light but not more. Anything bigger and it's that much more sail to pull out of the water. Also a lighter sail will weigh as much on the board and free it up more.
Finally if the waves are big, more volume and width can require some serious commitment. A multi fin can help with getting away with more volume while maintaining good control. Goya Quad? |
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rlemmens
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:17 am Post subject: |
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I sail around Waddell quite a bit. I'm 195 and sail a custom quatro 103 and my 5.4 ezzy taka on the lightest of days. I think I could go even smaller than
103. Your more than welcome to give my gear a try. I'm not looking to sell anything but maybe it'll help you figure out what you want. Let me know.
-Ruben |
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jingebritsen
Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:30 am Post subject: |
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west coast suggestions always amaze me. definition of light wind differ greatly.
my thoughts were exocet cross 114 and aerotech 6.8 phantom. that was guessing that ca has more wind and lots of favorable point breaks and other side shore to side off venues.
here in florida my light wind kit is a planing long board and a 7.5 phantom.
i don't sup at all. i do prone surfing though. very rarely..... _________________ www.aerotechsails.com
www.exocet-original.com
www.iwindsurf.com
http://www.epicgearusa.com/ |
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d0uglass
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1286 Location: Bonita Springs, Florida
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Angulo Chango 101 or 109 would be a *very* good choice. It will eat chop and whitewater. I'd get a 6.0 - 6.3 and then later if you feel like the gap between that and your 5.0 is too much you could get a 5.5 or something. _________________ James' Blog: Windsurfing Equipment Size Calculator
http://jimbodouglass.blogspot.com/2010/11/updated-windsurf-calculator-online.html |
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wdsurf
Joined: 22 May 1999 Posts: 335
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:53 am Post subject: CHANGO 109 |
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I,M 200 LBS. RIDE THE CHANGO 109 JUST GOT A 6.1 EZZY ELITE FOR MY BIG SAIL.USE 5.6 AND 4.9 ON IT.PLANES QUICK TURNS GREAT SAIL IT ON THE GREAT LAKES/ERIE B@J AND WAVES.THE 109 IS PLENTY OF FLOAT FOR ME THE 101 WILL BE PLENTY FOR YOU SINCE YOUR LIGHT.THE CHANGOS ARE PERFECTLY BALANCED FOR SLOGGING GREAT BOARDS |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I suspect you're missing the boat.
A floaty board that turns well on the waves is useless for upwind sailing on flood days at Crissy.
Only hard rails, flat rocker, and big blady fins get you upwind on the flood days and light winds of fall conditions at Crissy.
Of course, this same board works just OK in small waves and light winds.
At your size, and mine (70 kg's.) you need ONE wave board only for almost all coastal wave sailing, and that would be around 75 liters.
Wads, Davs, Scotts, Palo, just don't blow consistent if the winds are belowe 20, and can shut off or change directions at any time in such light breezes. |
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mthompson156
Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 29 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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zirtaeb wrote: | I suspect you're missing the boat.
A floaty board that turns well on the waves is useless for upwind sailing on flood days at Crissy.
Only hard rails, flat rocker, and big blady fins get you upwind on the flood days and light winds of fall conditions at Crissy.
Of course, this same board works just OK in small waves and light winds.
At your size, and mine (70 kg's.) you need ONE wave board only for almost all coastal wave sailing, and that would be around 75 liters.
Wads, Davs, Scotts, Palo, just don't blow consistent if the winds are belowe 20, and can shut off or change directions at any time in such light breezes. |
Thanks for the reply, but I disagree with some of that. My 85 is a pure wave board, and it sails fine in floods at Crissy (when fully powered of course) and I can get upwind. So I just want something to handle the next sail size up (6.0 ish). Certainly it won't do everything a flat bottom slalom board will, but was mainly curious if I can expect similar relative results with 109 wave/6.0 as I get with 85 wave/5.0 in flat water.
As far as the waves, I want to have this for other areas as well, such as further south, where there are consistent winds that are lighter than the Santa Cruz county spots. |
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