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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

russia vote fraud
https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/are-we-ready-for-russia-in-2020-and-what-was-dep-ag-rosenstein-up-to-for-trump-1508790851903


Are we ready for Russia in 2020? And what was Dep. AG Rosenstein up to for Trump?
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Two new reports from The New York Times raises questions about how successful Russia's election hacks were in 2016, if America's ready for 2020, and exactly what Dep. AG Rod Rosenstein was doing for Trump behind the scenes at DOJ. Our panel reacts.

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/ag-barr-won-t-clearly-state-how-foreign-entities-should-be-prohibited-from-involvement-in-elections-1515614787846

AG Barr won't clearly state how foreign entities should be prohibited from involvement in U.S. elections
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Under questioning from GOP Sen. Ben Sasse, AG Barr won't say with clarity how foreign entities and governments should be prohibited from getting involved in American elections.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trump and Barr are kissing russian interference and theft. Not one investigation or way to stop russian interference including at least the hacked florida electrions by Russia. Again we were attacked by an the most adversary and trump does not care, why because the Russians want him in again. this is treason...

great point by her and giving the hypothetical asking the Chineese well just saying, China if the Trump taxes were released the media would love you. EI get in competing nations to assist the other party.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/clinton-mueller-report-shows-that-the-russians-were-successful-1515955267847

Clinton: Mueller report shows that the Russians were successful
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton talks with Rachel Maddow about the successful Russian interference in the 2016 election and the dangers of Republicans putting partisanship ahead of national security just because their candidate was the beneficiary of that interference.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess your post does belong here on the voter disenfranchisement thread, because the dems are still trying to find a way to win the 2016 election, which in itself would be a form of complete voter disenfranchisement.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
I guess your post does belong here on the voter disenfranchisement thread, because the dems are still trying to find a way to win the 2016 election, which in itself would be a form of complete voter disenfranchisement.


you sound like barr who acted like there was no interference,

try answering this one low level thinker... is it ok to ask the chinese and iranian and europeans...

great point by her and giving the hypothetical asking the Chineese well just saying, China if the Trump taxes were released the media would love you. EI get in competing nations to assist the other party.

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why will not the right wing FBI release which counties had russian attacks.

maybe rick Scott would not have been elected or trump?

http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/russians-breached-election-systems-in-two-florida-counties-in-2016-59942981509

Russians breached election systems in two Florida counties in 2016
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Russian hackers breached the election systems of two counties in Florida ahead of the 2016 election, but neither the governor of Florida, nor the FBI will tell the public which counties were impacted, according to reports. Joy Reid and her panel discuss.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/20/1859209/-Disgusting-chat-log-with-photos-show-alleged-tampering-with-absentee-ballots-in-Miami?utm_campaign=trending

Disgusting chat log with photos shows alleged tampering with absentee ballots in Miami

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

republicans knew why they were wanting to add the citizenship question. Again republicans are such liars. we only know this because the liar republican which many were party to died. His daughter that knew what a scum of a un-human he was went through his hard drive and found the documents what this Nazi party scum of the earth was up to with the right wing including trump.


everyone associated with him should be charged and prosecuted and lose their citizenship.

remember blacks and females were counted in the census when they did not have the right to vote if your asking about founders intent..

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/05/architect-of-gop-gerrymandering-was-behind-trumps-census-citizenship-question/

Architect of GOP Gerrymandering Was Behind Trump’s Census Citizenship Question
The GOP’s longtime redistricting expert said the question would be “advantageous to Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites.”


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The Trump administration’s controversial effort to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census was drawn up by the Republican Party’s gerrymandering mastermind, who wrote that it “would clearly be a disadvantage to the Democrats” and “advantageous to Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites.” This bombshell news, revealed in newly released legal documents, suggests that the Trump administration added the question not to better enforce the Voting Rights Act, as it claimed, but to benefit Republicans politically when it came to drawing new political districts.

A case challenging the citizenship question is currently before the Supreme Court, and the new evidence significantly undercuts the Trump administration’s position in the case.




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Tom Hofeller, who passed away last year, was the longtime redistricting expert for the Republican National Committee. He helped Republicans draw heavily gerrymandered maps in nearly every key swing state after the 2010 election. In some of those places, like North Carolina, the new lines were struck down for discriminating against African Americans.

In 2015, Hofeller was hired by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative news outlet, to study the impact of drawing state legislative districts based on citizenship rather than total population, which has been the standard for decades. Hofeller’s analysis of Texas state legislative districts found that drawing districts based on citizenship—a move he conceded would be a “radical departure from the federal ‘one person, one vote’ rule presently used in the United States”—would reduce representation for Hispanics, who tended to vote Democratic, and increase representation for white Republicans. But Hofeller said that a question about citizenship would need to be added to the census, which forms the basis for redistricting, for states like Texas to pursue this new strategy.

Hofeller then urged President Donald Trump’s transition team to add the question about citizenship to the 2020 census. He urged the team to claim that a citizenship question was needed to enforce the Voting Rights Act, even though Hofeller had already concluded that it would harm the racial minority groups that the act was designed to protect. That argument was then used by the Justice Department in a December 2017 letter requesting that the Commerce Department, which oversees the census, include a citizenship question.

Hofeller’s documents were discovered on hard drives found by his estranged daughter and introduced into evidence in a separate trial challenging gerrymandered North Carolina state legislative districts drawn by Hofeller. On Thursday, lawyers challenging the citizenship question cited them in federal court. They suggest that members of Trump’s team may not have been fully forthcoming in their testimony under oath. Neither Trump transition team member Mark Neuman nor John Gore, the former assistant attorney general for civil rights who wrote the Justice Department letter, mentioned Hofeller’s involvement in the letter when they were deposed under oath as part of a lawsuit by New York and 17 other states challenging the citizenship question.

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Hofeller has long been involved in efforts to use the census to benefit the Republican Party. In the 1990s, he led the GOP’s campaign to oppose using statistical sampling to better count minority populations whom the Census Bureau tended to miss, writing that “a census that uses sampling and statistical adjustment will be the biggest victory for big government liberalism since the enactment of the Great Society.” Though the bureau favored using sampling, the Supreme Court disallowed it after Republicans sued. More recently, one of Hofeller’s protégés, Thomas Brunnel, was under consideration to be named deputy director of the Census Bureau under Trump, but he withdrew after his work on Republican redistricting cases attracted scrutiny.

The census determines how $880 billion in federal funding is allocated, how much representation states receive, and how political districts are drawn. A citizenship question is expected to deter many immigrants and Latinos from responding to the census. That—especially if combined with an effort to exclude noncitizens from being counted in redistricting—would result in a huge transfer of economic and political power to whiter and more Republicans areas.

Anti-immigration hardliners also lobbied hard for the Trump administration to add the citizenship question. In July 2017, former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach wrote to Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross “at the direction of Steve Bannon” and said it was “essential” that the citizenship question be added to the 2020 census. Kobach told Ross that the absence of a citizenship question “leads to the problem that aliens who do not actually ‘reside’ in the United States are still counted for congressional apportionment purposes.”

The Supreme Court is expected to rule on the census case by late June.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/new-revelations-from-hard-drives-of-deceased-gop-operative-61520453646

New revelations from hard drives of deceased GOP operative
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Thomas Hofeller's files appear to reveal that North Carolina Republicans lied in court to keep their gerrymandered and unconstitutional map a little longer.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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