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coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3550
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Overpowered & underpowered are very subjective terms. I don' know anyone who intentionally rigs to the point that they have to pump like a wild chicken to get on a plane which is what underpowered means to me. Overpowered means survival sailing to me and the only people I see rigging like that are racers.
Rigging is always a guess anyway especially trying to guess which way the wind will go, up or down.
B&J along with freeriding I rig on the bigger side of my best guess. Freestyle I rig on the smaller side.
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johnl
Joined: 05 Jun 1994 Posts: 1330 Location: Hood River OR
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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westender wrote: | The average person rigs too small. I rig a sail that will allow me to plane all the time. Too many sailors are also excruciatingly inefficient, expecting the wind and their gear to do all the work.
Get comfortable being uncomfortable and rigged wrong. You'll get much more TOW.
One sailing buddy rigs so he always feels like he needs a little more wind. |
Not what I see. I always rig the smallest sail I can for the conditions. A small sail is easier to manipulate than a larger sail. And I seem to be on a smaller rig than others.
Case in point. On a light day I saw a woman and I had the exact same sail rigged. She looked low 100 pounds. I'm upper 100 pounds. I said "one of us isn't going to have fun". We both sailed for over an hour out of Waterfront Park. We both went up to Wells Island. We both had fun. So "fun" and "powered" are a VERY subjective terms... Oh yeah we both were planing the majority of the time. |
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cgoudie1
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 2599 Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:46 am Post subject: Re: poll results |
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For me, it varies with conditions. I rig to plane, but in really holey conditions,
I might have to pump, or bear off or ride swell (oh bummer)
to stay planed up. I like to think I rig dead on
(that means planing most of the time). That's not over rigged.
Wave riders tend to rig just large enough to get them on a wave,
and that's not under rigged. Waves require more skill (which I don't really
have enough of, by the way), and are more dangerous, so your
power/comfort/safety question is non sequitur.
I lean toward whatever I'm likely to have the most fun on for the current
conditions, and that is a variety of gear.
Sails are really good these days, getting overpowered is somewhat unusual.
- Craig
p.s. If I'm "over powered", I usually just make adjustments and ride what I
rigged. If I'm "under powered", I usually just make adjustments and ride
what I rigged. Unless.... riding what I rigged is going to reduce my time
on the water due to fatigue, then I rerig. If conditions are something
like 5 to 30 crappy, I might ride a beach chair with a beer.
p.p.s You're not just yanking our chains are you?
winfreak wrote: |
Next question(s): Do you lean towards being "over-powered" or "under-powered" when conditions are not steady?
In other words, do you rig for the gusts/powered up periods (I never want to be overpowered)
or do you rig for the lulls (I will NOT schlog/pump ) ?
Or does it vary with conditions (bad gusts, light wind) or type of sailing practiced/desired ?
POWER vs comfort/safety?
Which way do YOU lean?
Thanks again for your responses! This has been useful. |
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techno900
Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4161
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:33 am Post subject: |
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For my inland lake sailing, it's not uncommon to have a 5 to 20 mph wind day. Can't rig for 5 or for 20, so something toward the upper end, say 15 would be the call. That would normally be formula board and a 9.2. On occasion, I rigged an 11.0 in this situation, but it is WAY too much work trying to hold on to an 11.0 in the gusts. Even a 9.2 in the gusts burns a lot of energy.
On this typical 5-20 day, I have also rigged an 8.4 on a iSonic 111 slalom board. Not planing as much as a formula board, but not a bad option for something different and more speed.
Rigging is not just selecting your sail. |
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justall
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 442
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: poll results |
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winfreak wrote: |
Next question(s): Do you lean towards being "over-powered" or "under-powered" when conditions are not steady?
In other words, do you rig for the gusts/powered up periods (I never want to be overpowered)
or do you rig for the lulls (I will NOT schlog/pump ) ?
Or does it vary with conditions (bad gusts, light wind) or type of sailing practiced/desired ?
POWER vs comfort/safety?
Which way do YOU lean? |
C'mon ... Lean overpowered.
My basic equation is to rig to maximize planing time, where planing time = total time on water - time slogging - time crashed.
-> Way too big means more undesired crash time
-> Too small means too much slog time
-> Too many trips to shore to re-rig means less time on water
Lean overpowered. |
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PeconicPuffin
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 1830
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:01 am Post subject: |
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It depends on the conditions and sailing you want to do. For myself I want to be lit (comfortably overpowered) for bump and jump sailing, but in ocean waves I want just enough to not need to pump to a plane. For freestyle depending on the move, needing a single pump to get going can be fine. _________________ Michael
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