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damel



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:00 am    Post subject: What's the best glue for EVA deck pads Reply with quote

One of my EVA foam deck pads started to peel off yesterday. It is the top layer of less dense foam that lays on top of another sheet of denser foam. I was wondering if anyone knows what the best glue is to lock it back down for life.

Luckily I have another similar wave board I can use while the foam gets nice and dry.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a good toluene-based contact cement. i use Weldwood classic. make sure you don't get the water-based version.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The consensus in past threads on this topic is Barge Cement.
However, because I seal the edges of pads with a fine bead of Welder's Adhesive applied straight from the tube in just seconds, my pads NEVER lift even with water-based Weldwood.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin is spot on in his recommendations. I would add that it's important to prepare both surfaces being bonded to ensure a long lasting quality job. That means removing any deck texture or residual bonding agent on any of the surfaces to be bonded. I have found that using a single edge razor blade does a great job of removing any deck texture right up to the border of the anticipated pad perimeter. Follow up with a good sanding to establish a clean foundation, and you're good to go with confidence that the contact cement will give you a virtually permanent bond.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never bothered to remove the old residue. I ADD pads on top of other pads if my objective is more padding, just lift the loose section of pads I want to repair and shove Barge Cement in there and let it dry propped open with a toothpick, or just rip the old ones off and glue on new pads over the residue if that's my objective. As long as any residue is not great big thick chunks, I can never tell the difference ... not in look, feel, or durability. I've padded many scores of decks for 25 years with anywhere from 1 to 8 sections of padding in different places with not even ONE lifting edge yet.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin's suggestion is what I would consider "best practice". Weldwood toluene based contact cement. Proper surface prep. is important, but it's not hard at all. BTW, if you buy the 1 pint can, clean the sealing surfaces, and don't mangle the lid when you take it off, it'll last for years....literally! I still use the can I've had for like.....ten years!

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coachg



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Kevin said. Can't go wrong with contact cement. It's also what Eva the Board Lady recommends.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still a Barge Cement guy. Pretty sure that's just a formulation
of contact cement, with a cool name ;*)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
I'm still a Barge Cement guy. Pretty sure that's just a formulation of contact cement

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JamesHardy



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, Kevin's right brush on contact cement is the way to go.
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