Onsite reports for Doug's Beach

biffmalibu · Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 556

Hey, how come nobody posts an onsite report for Doug's? That would be really helpful, especially as Swell-Hatchery gets too crowded and mean. Thanks.

scottwerden · Joined: 11 Jul 1999 Posts: 302

Just a guess here, but here are some possible reasons:
- you have to hike a long ways and dodge trains to get back to your car where most people leave their cell phones, or...
- It stinks and nobody every reports when it stinks, or...
- It's really good and who in his right mind would want to tell the hordes of people at the Hatch to come on down, or...
- The on-sight report format doesn't allow nuances in reporting, so what's the point anyway?

wmike · Joined: 20 Jan 2001 Posts: 207 Location: Maui

dhanson928 · Joined: 12 Mar 2012 Posts: 99

[quote="scottwerden"]Just a guess here, but here are some possible reasons:
- you have to hike a long ways and dodge trains to get back to your car where most people leave their cell phones, or...
- It stinks and nobody every reports when it stinks, or...
- It's really good and who in his right mind would want to tell the hordes of people at the Hatch to come on down, or...
- The on-sight report format doesn't allow nuances in reporting, so what's the point anyway?[/quote

I go past Doug's, normally a couple of times each day,...often heading out from LyleLand to go sailing somewhere east...I rarely stop there to sail...but I can give you generic report right now that fits what I see there on almost every drive-by.....When it IS windy..."Smoke and chop, interspersed with glass" On a very few days, it CAN be good...if the direction and flow are "just right" I guess...but in over 20 yrs of living nearby...I haven't got that wired, what makes Doug's good.......sometimes, it just is...but seldom. This time of year, weeds are a big problem also..... When the Corridor shuts down, the Hatch yahoos show up with their baggage...One plus is kiters don't much ride there so they aren't in the mix.. I'd almost trade Doug's for Celilo....almost...

scottwerden · Joined: 11 Jul 1999 Posts: 302

philodog · Joined: 28 Apr 2000 Posts: 209

The generic onsite reports are worthless. The only thing they tell you that the sensor doesn`t is what the tide is doing. And I can figure that out by looking at the tide chart for Dougs.

biffmalibu · Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 556

I think the river is big enough for honest reporting. Especially as windsurfers now die-off or convert to kiting. Just head upwind for clean air! It's a great time to be a windsurfer! Except for the rare quality days at Swell/Hatchery, parking is now not much of a problem.

Yes, Doug's is an annoying gear-schlepp. And the starboard chop often annoys. However, I have been in huge (15'-20') swell there. I think it is worth an honest report, good or bad.

dhanson, I would appreciate a report before you drive away from the Doug's lot. I will report when I have my phone with me there.

scottwerden · Joined: 11 Jul 1999 Posts: 302

Does that mean we can also expect reports from Cheap Beach?

biffmalibu · Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 556

Elaborate. What's your point? Speak plainly.

knifeonwater · Joined: 25 May 2000 Posts: 51

Maybe in addition to on site reports we could also have on site back casts. "You should have been here yesterday". Oh man, it was so good an hour ago". "I sailed ___ today and it was so much better than where you went". "Too bad you have a job, a family, and/or a life". That way most people would get completely frustrated and quit windsurfing entirely.