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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
all you libtards need to read this

Matt Tiabi

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup


He's always a good read.....

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-trump-2020-be-very-afraid-872299/
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
all you libtards need to read this

Matt Tiabi

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup


He's always a good read.....

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-trump-2020-be-very-afraid-872299/



Did you watch El Camino yet??? Very good......I know you're BB fan.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
all you libtards need to read this

Matt Tiabi

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup


He's always a good read.....

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-trump-2020-be-very-afraid-872299/



Did you watch El Camino yet??? Very good......I know you're BB fan.

Not yet...but without Walter White, how good can it be?
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
all you libtards need to read this

Matt Tiabi

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup


He's always a good read.....

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-trump-2020-be-very-afraid-872299/



Did you watch El Camino yet??? Very good......I know you're BB fan.

Not yet...but without Walter White, how good can it be?




It's all about Jesse now......
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vientomas



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
vientomas wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Kinetic war must be run by the executive branch. However within 30 days Congress must declare war, or end hostilities


Was the Iraq War a "war"? Did the Congress declare war? Did the Iraq war last longer than 30 days. How 'bout Vietnam, same questions.

Do you have any concept of history? Do you ever read books?



Passed by congress you stupid little man..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Iraq_Resolution_of_2002


Changed by congress after Vietnam

During the Korean and Vietnam wars, the United States found itself involved for many years in situations of intense conflict without a declaration of war. Many members of Congress became concerned with the erosion of congressional authority to decide when the United States should become involved in a war or the use of armed forces that might lead to war. It was prompted by news leaking out that President Nixon conducted secret bombings of Cambodia during the Vietnam War without notifying Congress.

The War Powers Resolution was passed by both the House of Representatives and Senate but was vetoed by President Richard Nixon. By a two-thirds vote in each house, Congress overrode the veto and enacted the joint resolution into law on November 7, 1973.


Imbicile. You cannot even be bothered to educate yourself on the facts before you spout off your nonsense:

The War Powers Act—officially called the War Powers Resolution—was enacted in November 1973 over an executive veto by President Richard M. Nixon.

The law’s text frames it as a means of guaranteeing that “the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply” whenever the American armed forces are deployed overseas. To that end, it requires the President to consult with the legislature “in every possible instance” before committing troops to war.

The resolution also sets down reporting requirements for the chief executive, including the responsibility to notify Congress within 48 hours whenever military forces are introduced “into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances.”


Additionally, the law stipulates that Presidents are required to end foreign military actions after 60 days unless Congress provides a declaration of war or an authorization for the operation to continue.

https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/war-powers-act

Guru deflects Trump's reckless act by claiming Congress should declare war. Essentially putting the burden on Congress and saving Trump from himself. When I inqure if he has any knowledge on the subject, he is silent and you pipe up. Again, based on the law you cited (which you clearly did not read or understand), why did the Iraq War take place with no declaration of war as required by the War Powers Act? The Iraq War lasted longer than 60 days. If Bush could wage war without a declaration of war, why could not Trump do the same in Syria? Why should it be placed at the feet of Congress?
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vientomas wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
vientomas wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Kinetic war must be run by the executive branch. However within 30 days Congress must declare war, or end hostilities


Was the Iraq War a "war"? Did the Congress declare war? Did the Iraq war last longer than 30 days. How 'bout Vietnam, same questions.

Do you have any concept of history? Do you ever read books?



Passed by congress you stupid little man..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Iraq_Resolution_of_2002


Changed by congress after Vietnam

During the Korean and Vietnam wars, the United States found itself involved for many years in situations of intense conflict without a declaration of war. Many members of Congress became concerned with the erosion of congressional authority to decide when the United States should become involved in a war or the use of armed forces that might lead to war. It was prompted by news leaking out that President Nixon conducted secret bombings of Cambodia during the Vietnam War without notifying Congress.

The War Powers Resolution was passed by both the House of Representatives and Senate but was vetoed by President Richard Nixon. By a two-thirds vote in each house, Congress overrode the veto and enacted the joint resolution into law on November 7, 1973.


Imbicile. You cannot even be bothered to educate yourself on the facts before you spout off your nonsense:

The War Powers Act—officially called the War Powers Resolution—was enacted in November 1973 over an executive veto by President Richard M. Nixon.

The law’s text frames it as a means of guaranteeing that “the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply” whenever the American armed forces are deployed overseas. To that end, it requires the President to consult with the legislature “in every possible instance” before committing troops to war.

The resolution also sets down reporting requirements for the chief executive, including the responsibility to notify Congress within 48 hours whenever military forces are introduced “into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances.”


Additionally, the law stipulates that Presidents are required to end foreign military actions after 60 days unless Congress provides a declaration of war or an authorization for the operation to continue.

https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/war-powers-act

Guru deflects Trump's reckless act by claiming Congress should declare war. Essentially putting the burden on Congress and saving Trump from himself. When I inqure if he has any knowledge on the subject, he is silent and you pipe up. Again, based on the law you cited (which you clearly did not read or understand), why did the Iraq War take place with no declaration of war as required by the War Powers Act? The Iraq War lasted longer than 60 days. If Bush could wage war without a declaration of war, why could not Trump do the same in Syria? Why should it be placed at the feet of Congress?




Congress asshole...but nice try....you were wrong...again

https://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/h_multi_sections_and_teasers/WarDeclarationsbyCongress.htm
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is funny!
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
This is funny!



I guess for a sad old man, otherwise not really. But thanks for reminding us what a bigot you are.. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Will goes all in on impeachment—and fundamental change in the Republican Party. Of course he uses words that Matty will have to look up. https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2019/10/10/george-f-will-spiraling/
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
George Will goes all in on impeachment—and fundamental change in the Republican Party. Of course he uses words that Matty will have to look up. https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2019/10/10/george-f-will-spiraling/


George who???....lol......you two have lot's in common....old , arrogant, full of themselves ,and completely irrelevant.
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