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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wsurfer wrote:
nw30 wrote:
Can you just imagine where we'd be now if the table cloth had won?
The economy, flat.
Unemployment, little change with uptick expected, minorities hit the hardest, the illegals are taking all the entry level jobs, and it's getting worse.
Obamacare, overwhelmed with the unemployed and illegals, costs continue going up.
NK, still saber rattling, and testing missiles.
ISIS still going strong, but Hillary says she might start the draft.
Iran, fat and happy.
Mac still had his stocks, but there's little movement, maybe a % and a half.
But, the table cloth didn't win, sad, I know.


Wow, you DID drink the Kool Aid!
Economy was on a ten year rise.
Unemployment same deal.
Illegals are rapists, MS-13, misinformation.
Obamacare, misinformation.
NK is unchanged.
Iran getting an open window.

You forgot to mention taking all the guns away, fake news enemy of the people etc.


Same ole story same ole song and dance!!!


You're a fucking moron .
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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you can actually articulate an argument, and you know almost nothing--post an insult. Works for three year olds, Matty and Trump.
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real-human



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Is Bill under that table cloth? Eating that rancid cheese, like a rat?


no, but trump is under there raping another 13 year old... maybe trump is grabbing some porno pussy and threatening her....

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531








https://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/10/11/editor-lists-all-women-said-president-trump-sexually-assaulted-them

https://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/rapequotes.asp



https://splinternews.com/here-are-all-the-times-donald-trump-has-been-accused-of-1793860459

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According to the suit, Trump tied her to a bed, exposed himself to her and then raped her in a "savage sexual attack." Doe says she screamed for him to stop at which point he struck her in the face while screaming "that he would do whatever he wanted." In a statement filed with the lawsuit, Doe says Trump threatened to ruin her life and her family's life if she ever told anyone about the incident:


here is the 13 year olds suit, that no major media put front page...

again this girl was 13 years old when trump did this. I say did this because he never filed a response in court and said he would sue all these females and he has not. so he is a liar again. and I say since he has the money and the biggest suer on earth, and this is the most severe accusation with witnesses to back it up at his friends home who has been convicted of raping children and at least 30-60 settlements, who has all of trumps personal numbers to doorman and so on, and trump lied and later said he did not know the serial pedophile Jeffy epstien. Well trump did not remember he was in photos with him, in interviews praising his good friends and in a government raid on the pedophile found all trumps personal numbers.

When is the major media going to cover it?

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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most corrupt administration in over 100 years. Pay to Trump, be allowed to loot the treasury.

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In April, Franklin Haney, a major donor to President Donald Trump, agreed to pay $10 million and a monthly retainer to Michael Cohen, then Trump's personal attorney, if Cohen successfully helped Haney get a $5 billion Department of Energy loan to complete two unfinished nuclear reactors in Alabama, people familiar with the matter said. A loan application by Haney's company is still pending at the Energy Department, but a lawyer for Haney said his client never hired Cohen or his affiliate for lobbying activities related to the Bellefonte Nuclear Power Plant project. ( The Wall Street Journal)
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
The most corrupt administration in over 100 years. Pay to Trump, be allowed to loot the treasury.

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In April, Franklin Haney, a major donor to President Donald Trump, agreed to pay $10 million and a monthly retainer to Michael Cohen, then Trump's personal attorney, if Cohen successfully helped Haney get a $5 billion Department of Energy loan to complete two unfinished nuclear reactors in Alabama, people familiar with the matter said. A loan application by Haney's company is still pending at the Energy Department, but a lawyer for Haney said his client never hired Cohen or his affiliate for lobbying activities related to the Bellefonte Nuclear Power Plant project. ( The Wall Street Journal)


When did Cohen join the Trump Administration????? Tabloid Mac
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Thanks Isobars. I hope you're doing well.

My only symptoms so far are drug side effects, but my labs are disappointing. But, hey ... the Mayo Clinic gave me 2.5 years in Nov 2016, so I'm winning so far. If I were dependent on any form of socialized medicine in which I had to settle for the Mayo Clinic, the VA, Obamacare, or some local oncologist, I could be dead now rather than sailing several hours a day in winds gusting well into gale force levels.
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the great Republicans in our country's history:

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By William D. Ruckelshaus
August 6 at 5:41 PM

William D. Ruckelshaus served as acting director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and as deputy attorney general in 1973. He was also administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency from 1970 to 1973 and 1983 to 1985.

President Trump is acting with a desperation Iíve seen only once before in Washington: 45 years ago when President Richard M. Nixon ordered the firing of special Watergate prosecutor Archibald Cox. Nixon was fixated on ending the Watergate investigation, just as Trump wants to shut down the Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

A lesson for the president from history: It turned out badly for Nixon. Not only could he not derail the investigation, but also, 10 months later, he was forced to resign the presidency.

In fact, in some ways, Trump is conducting himself more frantically than Nixon, all the while protesting his innocence. Nixon fought to the end because he knew that what was on the tape recordings that the prosecutor wanted would incriminate him. We donít know what Trump is hiding, if anything. But if he is innocent of any wrongdoing, why not let Robert S. Mueller III do his job and prove it?

In October 1973, Nixon ordered Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire Cox. Richardson refused and resigned. As deputy attorney general and next in line, I was ordered by the president to fire Cox; I also refused and resigned. Cox was finally fired by Solicitor General Robert H. Bork. The result is what came to be known as the Saturday Night Massacre.

Neither Richardson nor I saw any justifiable reason for Coxís dismissal. When it became clear that Cox would not give up his pursuit of the Oval Office tapes, Nixon took the only action he could to protect himself: He tried to get rid of the man charged with investigating him.

Nixon was desperate. His goal was to shut down the Watergate investigation by ridding himself of Cox. Instead, Nixon got Leon Jaworski, the highly respected former president of the American Bar Association. Nine months later, the Supreme Court handed down a unanimous decision forcing Nixon to release the tapes that proved his guilt. Shortly thereafter, the president resigned.

Not only was that Saturday night the beginning of the end of the Nixon presidency, but it also accelerated the growing wave of political cynicism and distrust in our government we are still living with today. One manifestation of that legacy: a president who will never admit he uttered a falsehood and a Congress too often pursuing only a partisan version of the truth.

Trump might attempt to shut down the Mueller investigation, but if he fires the special counsel, he could face the same result Nixon faced. He would look like a president with something to hide. He would unleash forces bigger than one man, because Americans believe no one is above the law, not even the president.

Nixon was brought down by his disrespect for the rule of law. The hundreds of letters I received after my refusal to fire Cox enshrined this thought in my head for the rest of my life.


Itís hard to believe that, 45 years later, we may be in store for another damaging attack on the foundations of our democracy. Yet the cynical conduct of this president, his lawyers and a handful of congressional Republicans is frightening to me and should be to every citizen of this country. We are not playing just another Washington political game; there is much more at stake.

The vehemence and irresponsibility of the rhetoric attacking the Mueller investigation tear at the very structure of our governance. Men who have sworn to use and protect our institutions of justice are steadily weakening them. Should the president finally decide to fire Mueller and put in place someone who will do his bidding, the country could be thrown into a political crisis that would scar our democracy and further erode the trust of our people in our governmental institutions.

We need leaders who tell the truth. This is not now happening. Mueller is living up to his superior reputation as a model public servant. His is a search for the truth; we should not complicate his job. Support him, and when he has finished his work, listen to what he has found.

What Mueller unearths will guide our next steps and will strengthen our trust in our institutions ó including the one we are now using to find the truth. I hope the president at last studies the lessons of a history I lived ó and that he heeds its warning.
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techno900



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From mac's post by William D. Ruckelshaus:

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The vehemence and irresponsibility of the rhetoric attacking the Mueller investigation tear at the very structure of our governance.


I wonder of Ruckelshaus will make the same quote if Trump is found innocent of collusion, which might read:

The vehemence and irresponsibility of the rhetoric from the left and the media attacking the President tore at the very structure of our governance.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
From mac's post by William D. Ruckelshaus:

Quote:
The vehemence and irresponsibility of the rhetoric attacking the Mueller investigation tear at the very structure of our governance.


I wonder of Ruckelshaus will make the same quote if Trump is found innocent of collusion, which might read:

The vehemence and irresponsibility of the rhetoric from the left and the media attacking the President tore at the very structure of our governance.


In that unlikely event, we will be left with:

1). The theoretically honest Donald Trump hiring such a crew of scum bags to run his campaign and work at high levels in his administration. Didnít he say he hires the best people?

2). The theoretically honest DJT having dictated a memo that, according to Techno, lied about DJT and DJTís role in the meeting in Trump Tower about the Magnizky Act,in an attempt to throw the FBI off the scent, but wasnít actually obstruction of justice?

3). The theoretically honest DJTís involvement in the multiple money laundering schemes involving Russian oligarchís looting the former SSRís and the Ukraine in particular.

Or, we could simply conclude from the available evidence and the historic lesson of Richard Nixon that honest people donít hire scumbags or attempt to obstruct justice.

Lock them all up.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900, I'm thinking that you are foolishly wishing that Donald Trump will be found to be innocent.

Yet, how you can have any faith at all in a such a patently dishonest person just blows me away. I guess you just you spend your time looking the other way and pretend, just like all the feckless Republicans in Congress, that it's somehow OK to suspend your morals and principles to get things you want. Just a wealth of circumstances where the end justifies the means, right?
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