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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vientomas wrote:
Last week, Whittier College — my alma mater — hosted California’s Attorney General, Xavier Becerra, in a question-and-answer session organized by Ian Calderon, the Majority Leader of the California State Assembly.

They tried to, anyway.

The event ended early after pro-Trump hecklers, upset about Becerra’s lawsuit against the Trump administration over DACA, continuously shouted slogans and insults at Becerra and Calderon. A group affiliated with the hecklers later boasted that the speakers were “SHOUTED DOWN BY FED-UP CALIFORNIANS” and that the “meeting became so raucous that it ended about a half hour early.”

https://www.thefire.org/hecklers-shout-down-california-attorney-general-assembly-majority-leader-at-whittier-college/


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said.

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By George F. Will
Columnist
January 18 at 5:09 PM
Half or a quarter of the way through this interesting experiment with an incessantly splenetic presidency, much of the nation has become accustomed to daily mortifications. Or has lost its capacity for embarrassment, which is even worse.

If the country’s condition is calibrated simply by economic data — if, that is, the United States is nothing but an economy — then the state of the union is good. Except that after two years of unified government under the party that formerly claimed to care about fiscal facts and rectitude, the nation faces a $1 trillion deficit during brisk growth and full employment. Unless the president has forever banished business cycles — if he has, his modesty would not have prevented him from mentioning it — the next recession will begin with gargantuan deficits, which will be instructive.

The president has kept his promise not to address the unsustainable trajectory of the entitlement state (about the coming unpleasant reckoning, he said: “Yeah, but I won’t be here”), and his party’s congressional caucuses have elevated subservience to him into a political philosophy. The Republican-controlled Senate — the world’s most overrated deliberative body — will not deliberate about, much less pass, legislation the president does not favor. The evident theory is that it would be lèse-majesté for the Senate to express independent judgments.


And that senatorial dignity is too brittle to survive the disapproval of a president not famous for familiarity with actual policies. Congressional Republicans have their ears to the ground — never mind Winston Churchill’s observation that it is difficult to look up to anyone in that position.

The president’s most consequential exercise of power has been the abandonment of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, opening the way for China to fill the void of U.S. involvement. His protectionism — government telling Americans what they can consume, in what quantities and at what prices — completes his extinguishing of the limited-government pretenses of the GOP, which needs an entirely new vocabulary. Pending that, the party is resorting to crybaby conservatism: We are being victimized by “elites,” markets, Wall Street, foreigners, etc.

After 30 years of U.S. diplomatic futility regarding North Korea’s nuclear weapons program, the artist of the deal spent a few hours in Singapore with Kim Jong Un, then tweeted: “There is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea.” What price will the president pay — easing sanctions? ending joint military exercises with South Korea? — in attempts to make his tweet seem less dotty?

Opinion | Trump owns the Republican Party, and there's no going back
President Trump has irreversibly changed the Republican Party. The upheaval might seem unusual, but political transformations crop up throughout U.S. history. (Adriana Usero, Danielle Kunitz, Robert Gebelhoff/The Washington Post)

By his comportment, the president benefits his media detractors with serial vindications of their disparagements. They, however, have sunk to his level of insufferable self-satisfaction by preening about their superiority to someone they consider morally horrifying and intellectually cretinous. For most Americans, President Trump’s expostulations are audible wallpaper, always there but not really noticed. Still, the ubiquity of his outpourings in the media’s outpourings gives American life its current claustrophobic feel. This results from many journalists considering him an excuse for a four-year sabbatical from thinking about anything other than the shiny thing that mesmerizes them by dangling himself in front of them.


Dislike of him should be tempered by this consideration: He is an almost inexpressibly sad specimen. It must be misery to awaken to another day of being Donald Trump. He seems to have as many friends as his pluperfect self-centeredness allows, and as he has earned in an entirely transactional life. His historical ignorance deprives him of the satisfaction of working in a house where much magnificent history has been made. His childlike ignorance — preserved by a lifetime of single-minded self-promotion — concerning governance and economics guarantees that whenever he must interact with experienced and accomplished people, he is as bewildered as a kindergartener at a seminar on string theory.

Which is why this fountain of self-refuting boasts (“I have a very good brain”) lies so much. He does so less to deceive anyone than to reassure himself. And as balm for his base, which remains oblivious to his likely contempt for them as sheep who can be effortlessly gulled by preposterous fictions. The tungsten strength of his supporters’ loyalty is as impressive as his indifference to expanding their numbers.

Either the electorate, bored with a menu of faintly variant servings of boorishness, or the 22nd Amendment will end this, our shabbiest but not our first shabby presidency. As Mark Twain and fellow novelist William Dean Howells stepped outside together one morning, a downpour began and Howells asked, “Do you think it will stop?” Twain replied, “It always has.”
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will, like Romney are both clowns. They want endless war and open borders. Trump's speech today was amazing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Will, like Romney are both clowns. They want endless war and open borders. Trump's speech today was amazing.


More false and unsubstantiated claims from the uninformed:

U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah said Friday he supports President Donald Trump’s push for a border wall that has led to a government shutdown and questioned why Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi won’t agree to “another few miles” of barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border.

https://www.apnews.com/1bc36faa1a4944b086452e7d7cacc352
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="vientomas"]
MalibuGuru wrote:
Will, like Romney are both clowns. They want endless war and open borders. Trump's speech today was amazing.


More false and unsubstantiated claims from the uninformed:

U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah said Friday he supports President Donald Trump’s push for a border wall that has led to a government shutdown and questioned why Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi won’t agree to “another few miles” of barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border.

https://www.apnews.com/1bc36faa1a4944b086452e7d7cacc352[/quote

You can be a clown, and support some of our Presidents ideas. Romney is, in general an open borders guy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The president spoke today? Whos president? The manchild we are ignoring?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="MalibuGuru"]
vientomas wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Will, like Romney are both clowns. They want endless war and open borders. Trump's speech today was amazing.


More false and unsubstantiated claims from the uninformed:

U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah said Friday he supports President Donald Trump’s push for a border wall that has led to a government shutdown and questioned why Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi won’t agree to “another few miles” of barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border.

https://www.apnews.com/1bc36faa1a4944b086452e7d7cacc352[/quote

You can be a clown, and support some of our Presidents ideas. Romney is, in general an open borders guy


Ok Clown...Explain to me how a guy who wants to build a wall is an "open borders" guy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="vientomas"]
MalibuGuru wrote:
vientomas wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Will, like Romney are both clowns. They want endless war and open borders. Trump's speech today was amazing.


More false and unsubstantiated claims from the uninformed:

U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah said Friday he supports President Donald Trump’s push for a border wall that has led to a government shutdown and questioned why Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi won’t agree to “another few miles” of barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border.

https://www.apnews.com/1bc36faa1a4944b086452e7d7cacc352[/quote

You can be a clown, and support some of our Presidents ideas. Romney is, in general an open borders guy


Ok Clown...Explain to me how a guy who wants to build a wall is an "open borders" guy.


Even Trump wants a BIG BEAUTIFUL DOOR TO LET LEGAL IMMIGRANTS INTO THE COUNTRY
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Even Trump wants a BIG BEAUTIFUL DOOR TO LET LEGAL IMMIGRANTS INTO THE COUNTRY"


How many Muslims will have a chance?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
"Even Trump wants a BIG BEAUTIFUL DOOR TO LET LEGAL IMMIGRANTS INTO THE COUNTRY"


How many Muslims will have a chance?


Muslims?

President Donald Trump's approval rating among Latinos shot up nearly 20 points from December to January in a new poll.

Key results in the latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll:

50 percent of Latinos support the job Trump is doing, a significant jump from the 31 percent who had the same answer in a December poll.

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