Religion of peace and guns

[swchandler]

"There seems to be a naive assumption in many minds that by taking in (rescuing) millions of refugees from alien cultures they will be so eternally grateful to us that they will docilely obey all OUR laws, culture, and very way of life."


G.T., let me ask you, is the UK's problems with Muslims about taking in millions of refugees, or is it about bringing in a work force to do what the British don't want to do?

I will say this about our Hispanic illegal immigration problem here in the US, because it has been said that they have been hired to do jobs that most Americans won't do. Whether that is true or not is questionable, there is still no doubt that Hispanics will work for less.

Overall, I think that Hispanics want to be a part of our society, even though they continue to speak Spanish and cling to a bit to their culture. Eventually though, their kids will integrate, because the differences in their values and culture aren't so far out of line.

Will Muslims in the UK see the value in a progressive western society, and convert over time to respect our values and integrate well? If not, how do you move them out and do without them?

[GURGLETROUSERS]

SWC - Most realistic people accept, as many of us keep pointing out, that a Muslims first allegiance must be to his or hers religion when it becomes necessary, or is required of them. The statement that they are here to fill the workforce (not true in our case, but said to be so in Germany) is irrelevant to the issue of their loyalty.

Experience with many closed Muslim communities and their mind sets has shown that it is highly unlikely that Muslims can ever fully accept our vaqlues and way of life. The greater their numbers grow, the more they will demand adherence to THEIR customs, (Sharia Law for example) as a right. That is already happening in defiance of our laws.

Even more incredibly, a small panel of liberal academics has just issued a report claiming that Ghristianity is so in decline in our country, that it should no longer be defended as our countries faith, thus eliminating our Christian historical background and leaving a religious vacuum into which more assertive Islam would readily jump!

Stupidity, or naivety!!

[J64TWB]

So a religious vacuum is the problem? I say religion is the biggest problem. Clearly for all wars.

[J64TWB]

Specifically, getting to heaven. It's the root of this entire problem.

[J64TWB]

The motherload of information. Click on any graph for the full story.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

[J64TWB]

Interestingly, the standard of living in countries like United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Jordan, Morocco, Cyprus... They seem to not have as much violence?

It seems to me that lack of education and economics in places like Afghanistan and other countries is the root of the problem if you take religion out of the equation.

[real-human]

[MalibuGuru]

[swchandler]

Trump has zero experience in the Middle East, with Russia and Putin, and ultimately with understanding our culture, and you think that he can pull off being president? I will admit though, he's pretty good at bringing the worse out of an angry minority in this country.

[mat-ty]