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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what morons think this is democracy... this is banana republic BS and these SC idiots are so stupid, well criminals actually.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just getting even for how the democrats ran the show after 2000. Actually, I believe it should be done fairly, but that's almost impossible.

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At that time, it didn’t take five years to find a court that would rule against the legislative maps drawn in 2001, he wrote. “Because the 2001 Democratic maps violated the Whole County Provision of the North Carolina Constitution, the state Supreme Court struck down the legislative maps in the Stephenson decisions. The 2002 election maps were drawn by a judge, but Democrats took the opportunity to redraw the maps in 2003.”

Inman pointed out that there was a stark difference in how the Republican Party drew the districts in 2011 compared to how they were drawn in 2001, 2002 and 2003 when Democrats controlled the legislature:

“The years 2000 through 2004 were filled with lawsuits and backdoor wheeling and dealing over lines drawn by a Democratic majority. Those controlling the process ignored complaints from Republicans and even Democratic African-American legislators. … The process was done with no transparency. Lawmakers were barely able to see their districts before voting on them.”

According to Inman, back in 2001, the issue of race was front and center too:

“African-American Democrats revolted at the prospect of a map with very few majority-minority districts, endangering the map’s passage in the closely divided House. Democratic Speaker Jim Black told the public that the map was drawn to ensure that Democrats would have control of the body, and that giving African-Americans more seats would endanger that majority.

“’Every time you change one district, you change districts around it. Every time you do that, you change the balance of power in the state,’ said Black. ‘I personally believe African-American citizens will be better off with Democratic leaders for the next 10 to 20 years.’”

In 2011, Inman also noted an irony that is present today: “Many of the same voices calling for increased numbers of minority-majority seats in 2001 are now decrying the Republican maps for doing just that.”

And while today’s Democrats are now denouncing Republicans for drawing maps to their advantage, Inman noted they once aimed to do the same:
“Democrats have always been keenly aware of the advantage redistricting gave them. As late as 2010, Gov. Bev Perdue told Democrats at the annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner how important it was that they hold onto the General Assembly in a redistricting year. ‘We must have Democrats redraw those maps,’ she said.”


Read more: https://www.nccivitas.org/2016/a-look-back-sheds-light-on-redistricting/
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
Just getting even for how the democrats ran the show after 2000. Actually, I believe it should be done fairly, but that's almost impossible.

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At that time, it didn’t take five years to find a court that would rule against the legislative maps drawn in 2001, he wrote. “Because the 2001 Democratic maps violated the Whole County Provision of the North Carolina Constitution, the state Supreme Court struck down the legislative maps in the Stephenson decisions. The 2002 election maps were drawn by a judge, but Democrats took the opportunity to redraw the maps in 2003.”

Inman pointed out that there was a stark difference in how the Republican Party drew the districts in 2011 compared to how they were drawn in 2001, 2002 and 2003 when Democrats controlled the legislature:

“The years 2000 through 2004 were filled with lawsuits and backdoor wheeling and dealing over lines drawn by a Democratic majority. Those controlling the process ignored complaints from Republicans and even Democratic African-American legislators. … The process was done with no transparency. Lawmakers were barely able to see their districts before voting on them.”

According to Inman, back in 2001, the issue of race was front and center too:

“African-American Democrats revolted at the prospect of a map with very few majority-minority districts, endangering the map’s passage in the closely divided House. Democratic Speaker Jim Black told the public that the map was drawn to ensure that Democrats would have control of the body, and that giving African-Americans more seats would endanger that majority.

“’Every time you change one district, you change districts around it. Every time you do that, you change the balance of power in the state,’ said Black. ‘I personally believe African-American citizens will be better off with Democratic leaders for the next 10 to 20 years.’”

In 2011, Inman also noted an irony that is present today: “Many of the same voices calling for increased numbers of minority-majority seats in 2001 are now decrying the Republican maps for doing just that.”

And while today’s Democrats are now denouncing Republicans for drawing maps to their advantage, Inman noted they once aimed to do the same:
“Democrats have always been keenly aware of the advantage redistricting gave them. As late as 2010, Gov. Bev Perdue told Democrats at the annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner how important it was that they hold onto the General Assembly in a redistricting year. ‘We must have Democrats redraw those maps,’ she said.”


Read more: https://www.nccivitas.org/2016/a-look-back-sheds-light-on-redistricting/


the supreme idiots who voted this way just don't care about democracy.

th right wing judges said it was just to difficult for them to get involved. BS...

and it is simple, when the vote does not represent the election, say by 50 percent the other party gets to redraw the entire map any way they want that lasts 20 years.. If by 35% then lasts only 10 years, if by 20% only 5 years. something in that line...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bernie will solve the topical problem. He says that a biased Supreme Court taints decisions, and in the same sentence says his cure will be to rotate its members unilaterally any time he wants according to his criteria.

Source: his own lips in a recent speech.

The obvious flaw: does ANYONE think he will appoint any conservative or moderate judges or wait two whole days after a decision he doesn't like comes down?

Just more evidence that he is as insane, anti-constitutional, and dangerous as AOC, Falwell, Warren, Harris, and the rest of them.
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