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rangerider
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:05 am Post subject: Broken extension collars |
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Last fall I broke 2 chinook plastic collars while out on the water which made for some interesting sailing prior to my figuring out what the problem was - the collars were not that old but in fairness were under a lot of tension on my 12.0 formula rig. Anyone know of a stronger (metal maybe) collar that will fit properly on my chinook extensions? Thanks. |
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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rangerider
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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No, the collars broke and they were practically new. I don't think chinook makes a different type. Even if they warranty the part I'm wondering if anyone knows of a different brand that makes a stouter collar that I could order. I've only ever had Chinook, no beef with them, just wondering what else is out there that is beefy/durable. |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Just go back to the old pin and ring collar, like maybe Streamline still uses.
Do the internet search. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I can say that the anodized metal ring and spring concept made by Fiberspar years ago with their carbon extension worked pretty well for me, but the downhaul pressure of a current 12.0 rig might even stress that design.
I'm thinking that you should probably take the design of chinook's classic plastic and pin design, and have the plastic component fabricated from a sturdy grade of stainless steel. Obviously, a bit more expensive route, but you might be able to spread out the set-up costs by having some quantity done, and then later selling them to interested folks in the future as an aftermarket upgrade. |
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rangerider
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, I am somewhat familiar with the streamline design. Are they plastic or is there a metal component as well? - i went on their website but it wasn't clear to me. The idea of making a stainless version of the chinook design is interesting but obviously something off-the-shelf would be easier. |
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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bred2shred
Joined: 02 May 2000 Posts: 989 Location: Jersey Shore
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:09 am Post subject: |
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He said he was rigging a 12.0 Formula sail. As far as I know, that would have to be a SDM extension.
Way back when, the base extensions used a solid stainless steel pin (1/4" diameter?) that held the collar in place. Then the companies (Chinook & Windsurfing Hawaii) switched to one-handed collars that used two short "half" pins which were not as strong. I don't know that I ever broke one, but certainly caused a few of them to deform, so I went back to the old style collars on my WH extensions. If you can find one of these old style collars, that would be the ticket. Otherwise, I believe Streamlied still makes this style of solid pin extension.
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rangerider
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Thanks all. Yes, SDM. I will see if I can order some streamlined collars then and see if they work with my chinook extensions - if not I can just buy a new streamlined extension for the 12.0 and I'll have some extra collars. As an aside I'm using factory spec settings with the sail but the tension is much higher than with my other sails - I broke downhaul lines as well - going to get a length of spectra line as well. |
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