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ittiandro
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 Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:57 pm Post subject: Outdoor winter storage of boards |
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I have just bought a brand new BIC Windsup,( still in its box and air bubble wrapping )and I was wondering if for the remaining few weeks ( or days) of winter it is safe to keep it outside in the yard, under the roof of the deck above . The area would be open on two sides and, of course,not heated. I could store inside my apartment, but it would be rather inconvenient, given the length of of the board.
Here in Montreal the lows are hovering at night around 0 degrees to 4 or 5 down for a few more days .
Are the cardboard of the box and the air bubble wrapping, in anybody's opinion, a sufficient insulation for only a few degrees below 0 at night for a few more days ?(During the day, temperatures will be well above freezing).
There is a sticker on the box warning against storing at 0 degrees temp, but I was wondering if it is not an excess of caution on behalf of the manufacturer, especially in these marginal winter conditions.
Thanks for your input
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U2U2U2
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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C or F
I guess it C , so 32 or slightly under freezing.
I assume this has no vent plug or its removed for shipping.
I would find something else to concern my self with.
RX IF. Trump gets elected the number of Americans immigrating to Canada,
Myself I m going to the Magdalen Islands.
My boards in Maine stay in a cabin , all year long, so far no issues.
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isobars
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I've kept boards outside for decades without a problem ... BUT
1. Insulation is for heated spaces.
2. If Bic ever finds out you did that, your warranty is toast. |
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swchandler
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I have to ask, are you going to open the box, remove the board, and check for any damage and missing components? I think it would be wise. You can always wrap the board up and put it back in the box until you're ready to use it.
Lastly, where are you planning to store the board once the season begins? I'm thinking that leaving the board outside just might invite a thief's interest. |
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joethewindsufa
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yeah and i know where ittiandro lives  |
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7176
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:37 pm Post subject: Where in Maine |
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| U2, whereabouts do you windsurf in Maine? |
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bred2shred
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I keep my boards in an un-heated, un-insulated, detached garage year round. Before that, they were stored in a van, and before that a trailer. Never been an issue and we see winter temps in the single digits (F) here. I can't see why it would be a problem.
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I agree, except...... if there's a lot of water in your board.
-Craig
| bred2shred wrote: | I keep my boards in an un-heated, un-insulated, detached garage year round. Before that, they were stored in a van, and before that a trailer. Never been an issue and we see winter temps in the single digits (F) here. I can't see why it would be a problem.
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ittiandro
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| isobars wrote: | I've kept boards outside for decades without a problem ... BUT
1. Insulation is for heated spaces.
2. If Bic ever finds out you did that, your warranty is toast. |
Sounds good. I still wonder, though, why Bic should put this warning against storing at 0 Celsius , which is a relatively mild temperature. It would make sense if water and the risk of freezing was involved. Without water, I wonder what could happen at 0 degrees which would not happen at ..1, 2, or 3 C above.
Perhaps there are some physics here which escape me..
Regarding your remark that insulation helps only if a body is stored in a heated area, i.e. to prevent heat losses to the outside , I thought insulation could help, however so marginally perhaps, also where there is no heating involved.
From my reading of physics, I understand that ALL bodies have an inherent amount of heat in their molecular structure and perhaps, even if an object is stored outside in the cold in a non-heated area, insulation would still help.
This wouldn't certainly help at 20 C below, but may be if 0 C is critical( according to Bic!) , wrapping the object in insulating material could shield it, if only by keeping it at 1 or 2 C above.
This inherent heat is what is known in physics as LATENT heat: it supplies the energy required for a body to change state, for inst, when water turns from ice to liquid water.
This explains why for instance a frozen lake does not melt instantaneously even when the surrounding air temperature is above freezing, even at 5 C. It takes time! It is simply because this latent heat of the ice is expended as energy required to melt it. This latent heat expenditure leaves the body ( the frozen water) relatively colder, thus slowing down the effect of the warmer outside temperature.. Maybe I am wrong. Interesting to know what an engineer or a physicist thinks.
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ittiandro
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| swchandler wrote: | I have to ask, are you going to open the box, remove the board, and check for any damage and missing components? I think it would be wise. You can always wrap the board up and put it back in the box until you're ready to use it.
Lastly, where are you planning to store the board once the season begins? I'm thinking that leaving the board outside just might invite a thief's interest. |
Yes, I have already opened the box, checked that everything is there and that there is no damage. I have re-closed the box and laid it on a raised platform ( a table ) covered with a polyethylene canvas.
As I said, the board is stored under my deck . It has a roof, but the area is opened on two sides. It is a few feet from the walls of my house, so may be there will still be some heat coming from there.. It will remain there until the season begins. THe board is safe there. I am not afraid of thieves. The access to my yard is through two locked gates and I am around most of the time.
Temperatures are now above 0 C , but will go down to 4 or 5 C below at night next week.. I am thinking of wrapping the board with a couple of those thick " blankets" used by professional movers to protect household objects. As a last resort solution, I should perhaps move it inside my apartment, but it is a bit of a hassle with a 12 ft board !
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