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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14890 Location: on earth
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:07 pm Post subject: US built wall costing tens-hundreds of mill can not stop um |
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here at this wall there is a military and they can not stop people climbing the wall the US had contractors build around just a small part of the city.
So exactly how is a wall up against Canada and Mexico going to stop those dangerous people like terrorists and drug lords over some 5000 miles?
Again the terrorist they caught under Clinton for Y2K came from Canada's border crossing.
and what is the approximate cost now to build secure walls per mile?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/protests-in-baghdad-throw-administrations-iraq-plan-into-doubt/2016/04/30/759fadd4-0f03-11e6-bfa1-4efa856caf2a_story.html?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_headlines
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Demonstrators climbed over blast walls surrounding the capital’s highly fortified Green Zone and could be seen streaming into the parliament building.
April 30, 2016 Followers of Iraq’s Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr storm Baghdad’s Green Zone after lawmakers failed to convene for a vote on overhauling the country’s government. Khalid Al-Mousily/Reuters |
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KGB-NP
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 2856
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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The running joke in Canada is we want Trump to build a wall on the Canadian border to keep Americans out. _________________ The universe is made up of proton, neutrons, electrons, and morons. |
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wynsurfer
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 940
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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I can understand that NP. So many dangerously stupid people! Nobody wants us. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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We intercept perhaps 5-10% of illegal drugs--at a cost of about $40 billion a year. The profits of illegal drugs have led to corruption in many areas of government, particularly in law enforcement. (And legal opiod drugs are killing more than 14,000 people a year.) Obama has sent more undocumented immigrants with criminal records back than ever. And somehow the knuckleheads who relish in Trump's bigotry think a wall is going to work. Maybe they studied math with NW. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Really, it isn't about building a wall at all. It's about the Americans that are hiring illegal immigrants. Any credible politician should be honing in on this, but it's something that Republicans in the House can't seem to pull it off. Maybe their monied constituents back home don't want too much attention on the real problem. |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | Really, it isn't about building a wall at all. It's about the Americans that are hiring illegal immigrants. Any credible politician should be honing in on this, but it's something that Republicans in the House can't seem to pull it off. Maybe their monied constituents back home don't want too much attention on the real problem. |
President Obama has had plenty of time to make a deal with Republicans. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 1:02 am Post subject: |
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I think you're missing the picture. The Republican House needs to pass an immigration reform bill that can also pass a Republican Senate.
You would think that Republican leadership in Congress could bring something credible to the table. Yet, why are they missing in action? Looking at my original point, they can't seem to focus on the problem at hand. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 9:06 am Post subject: |
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MalibuGuru wrote: | President Obama has had plenty of time to make a deal with Republicans. |
At least he, Pelosi, and Reid were sometimes honest about their abject refusal to consider Republican ideas for these 7+ years, even boasting about it from the dais sometimes [e.g., Obama to McCaine, caught on camera in a large meeting: "The election's over, John. I won." Translation: STFU.). This and even more outrageous public refusals to hear Republican legislators contributed a great deal to the GOP sweep in 2012, but the DNC learned nothing from it.
Thus Trump's appeal, as hordes of Democrats are tired of arrogant dictators with no interest at all in compromise. That same concern is costing Cruz dearly. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 11:32 am Post subject: |
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mac wrote: | Obama has sent more undocumented immigrants with criminal records back than ever. And somehow the knuckleheads who relish in Trump's bigotry think a wall is going to work. Maybe they studied math with NW. |
Of course he has, after allowing more of them to flood into this country, more than ever before, he has to, killers also, but there are still many more here hiding.
And you think they were all here before he got originally elected?
Yes some, but a hell of a lot more came in with BHO's open border policy, over the last 7 1/2 years.
There is some math for you.
http://www.krgv.com/story/31844858/consistent-surge-of-undocumented-immigrants
Immigration reform is just simply going back the laws we already have but enforcing them for a change. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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