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joethewindsufa
Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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jingebritsen
Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371
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joethewindsufa
Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:34 am Post subject: |
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was gonna say what jingebritsen said about the Hula
and suggest perhaps a Z2 from Tinho of calema sports - for heavyweights
but realised I had started this thread about longboards with daggerboards
what a dilemma
how is it that Elite 380 is not sold yet ??
excellent price !!
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wynsurfer
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 940
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:51 am Post subject: |
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I think the Elite 380 is gone It says out of stock.
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PeconicPuffin
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 1830
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Races keep people interested in longboards. Our Long Island events always feature races with no minimums, so everyone keeps a longboard around.
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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joethewindsufa wrote: | isobars says don't wait for wind nor chase wind ... |
If I said that, I was drunk .. and I've never been drunk. I'll wait all day if the forecast or my gut supports it, and I've chased wind for hundreds of thousands of miles. The closest such thing I recall saying is that I've gotten burned out chasing forecasts involving a drive of more than a few hours or flights of any length. I'll still carry my gear on extended road trips, but their purpose is no longer just windsurfing.
joethewindsufa wrote: | -- and/or move to where there is wind more often ... |
Now that I HAVE said, many times, very earnestly. What's a relocation compared to a remaining lifetime of good wind? Heck, it often doesn't require even changing companies, let alone a career change, and it opens up a whole new world of friends, activities, and maybe career paths. Just think: actually taking charge of our lives rather than just eating whatever crap someone tosses in front of us.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch ... longboards strike me as simply another tool in our quiver. On days when the wind is too holey to plane much on even a BIG "shortboard" -- any WS board without a daggerboard -- why NOT get out the longboard, or at least a windSUP or SUP? A 12-foot waterline and a BIG honkin' centerboard will cover a lot of ground, plane early, get us back home almost every time, and provide room for the dog. It's not up to some collective "WE" to bring back longboards, it's up to each individual to do it for himself if his local conditions, preferences, and circumstances favor it. Why, heck, this discussion might just have motivated me to get my rehab windSUP back on the water. I'd sort of forgotten it since my knee recovered, and haven't even tried out the used "diesel" 7.0 rig I bought just for it. Maybe that combination will extend my WSing time on the planet.
In that sense a longboard may be comparable to diapers: our lives often may begin and end with both.
But I forget: even after we get too old and infirm for longboards, there's always kiting.
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Mgoetz
Joined: 06 Jun 1997 Posts: 53
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hope it's not too late to join th longboard commentary. This is my third season on my Kona and I really like it. I know that I'll always have an opportunity to get out on the water. Many times I've ventured out to just cruise and was able to score a couple planing tacks. My first longboard was a Mistral Maui which I regret selling. It could be a little unwieldy on a plane, however, since a large part of the board, beyond the tail, was out of the water. The kona's step tail alleviates that issue. Another great thing about the Kona l is sailing in side-off conditions as it gets me out to the more consistent winds, yet will get me back to shore through the flukey stuff. But like a lot of commenters, it would be nice if it was just a little quicker to plane and not such a schlepping ordeal getting it down to the water.
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Awalkspoiled
Joined: 21 Sep 2013 Posts: 44
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Another thing which would really help is if we encouraged sailmakers to build longboard-optimized sails - longer booms, tighter leeches and fuller shapes. I recently picked up a used Ezzy Zephyr (7.5) which is just such a sail. To some extent it duplicates the windrange of my Cheetah 8.5 but in subplaning conditions or up and down marginal planing conditions it’s a lot more fun than that sail and way less work than my 10.0. Easy to pump, easy to rig, and very grunty for its size. Reminds me a lot of sails from the ‘80s when 7.5 was considered a big rig!
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rollerrider
Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 100
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Comparing old long boards to new ones is like classic cars to modern ones. They both get from A to B and they are pretty fast. But the old ones are not as efficient or easy to use. Sure looking cool and just slogging around on the old will be fun but not better. If there is any possibility to plane why cart around an old heavy plastic board that's modeled after a sailboat?
Modern equipment makes it easier to advance the skill level. Like skiing. Can most people do better on the 20 year old skis or the new ones?
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techno900
Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4161
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:41 am Post subject: |
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rolle said: Quote: | Comparing old long boards to new ones is like classic cars to modern ones. They both get from A to B and they are pretty fast. But the old ones are not as efficient or easy to use. |
True in some cases, but not all. I still have my 1985 Mistral Superlight with the original regatta sail, and little comes close to it in winds under 10 knots. My 1994 Mistral Equipe II XR was, and still is one of the best race boards ever made, but I sold it and moved to Formula.
And yes, I started on a HiFly 500 poly board in 1984, and it was a dog, but easy to sail.
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