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tom.riddle
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:50 am Post subject: Best board for my weight/skill? |
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Hi. I have a big old Mistral Escape, with a 6.8 sail w/ 4 battens, which I have been sailing for years. I can go out in about 15-20 MPH winds with a little, not a lot of chop. Can jibe as efficiently as you can do on a board that size. I'm ready for a board without a daggerboard.
Massachusetts has mostly light winds in the summer, but I have an old semi-dry suit and do go out well into the fall (lakes & bays)
I'm 5'7, 155 lbs. Looking for a wide/light freeride, not a wave board.
What would be the lowest volume board that I could always uphaul say a 7.5M sail? And any recommendations on boards would be most welcome
THanks,
Tom |
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cgoudie1
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 2599 Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Best board for my weight/skill? |
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Hi Tom,
I'm not really a "freeride" kinda guy, so filter my suggestions, but, at 155 plus the weight of a newer board and sail, you're be ankles awash at around 90 ltrs which is uphaulable, but I think the minimum you'd want for up hauling is around 110 ltrs, and you can't really go wrong in Freeride boards as that is the industries bread and butter freeride size. Tabou Rocket Wides are getting good reviews, but an RRd Firemove, or even a Starboard Carve around the 110 ltr mark could be good. They all run about 20 lbs with straps and fin, in their lightest construction. I think if you want to run a 7.5 you might want to have maybe a little more volume say about 115 ltrs at your weight.
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-Craig
tom.riddle wrote: | Hi. I have a big old Mistral Escape, with a 6.8 sail w/ 4 battens, which I have been sailing for years. I can go out in about 15-20 MPH winds with a little, not a lot of chop. Can jibe as efficiently as you can do on a board that size. I'm ready for a board without a daggerboard.
Massachusetts has mostly light winds in the summer, but I have an old semi-dry suit and do go out well into the fall (lakes & bays)
I'm 5'7, 155 lbs. Looking for a wide/light freeride, not a wave board.
What would be the lowest volume board that I could always uphaul say a 7.5M sail? And any recommendations on boards would be most welcome
THanks,
Tom |
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BritishSteve
Joined: 18 Apr 1997 Posts: 17
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:07 pm Post subject: Volume for uphaul |
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It does depend a little on the volume distribution of the board. I am heavier at 185, but I have a 2014 120 liter Angulo Release, which I usually use a 7.0. No problem uphauling. The newer boards tend to be a little wider which makes uphauling a little easier. Good all around freeride board. I also used it yesterday with a 5.6. Roughly one liter for every 2 lbs to float you. I've never tried it with my 8.5, which I usually use on an 130 liter race board, but this starts to bounce around a lot if very choppy. My 100 liter board floats me, but a little more tricky to uphaul. My 86 liter board, will not float be and I've never tried uphauling it. So I agree with Craig. (30lbs = 15 liters), so minimum 100-110 liters. Hope this helps. |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Of course, lots has to do with skill level for a 155 lbs sailor, stuck using a 6.5 and 7.5 most of the time.
If your jibing and waterstart skills aren't solid, a bigger board would always make windsurfing easier.
However, given some jibing skills, and 155 lbs, I'd go with a JP SuperSport 109, which is what I use for the lightest winds of around 11-17 mph, or a similar FreeRace type board of just over 100 liters of volume.
The reason for the smaller board is LESS volume, so it's lighter in weight, and the sailor has more power over the board, thru pumping. Of course, the smaller the board, the more skill is needed, down to around 100 liters on a 7.5 meter sail.
For YOU, which you care about more, it's a dead heat between high volume, like 145 liters x 78 cm widths for ease, down to what I'd use in 6.5 to 7.5 weather.
There is no such thing as the "perfect" size board. It's always about compromises, and what you think is perfect now, will change as your skill changes. |
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joethewindsufa
Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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guess we should start with what you have:
Mistral Escape
11'3" long = ~ 337-346 cm
width 65 cm
190 liters
29.8 pounds
so, you are used to a narrow board with some volume
people now are pushing the wider boards, but that is not for everyone
freerides used to be narrow compared to freemove
narrow is better in chop unless you are "flying" over it
at 70 kilos - you have a LOT of options
would be nice to see if you could try some "modern" 135 liter boards
and then even less
if you purchased a used 125 liter board, got used to it and sold it
you should not lose much cash
such volumes are in demand
same as 160 liters for that matter
sad part about our sport - difficult to try before you buy
THAT is what i loved about Hatteras
does World Sails rent out equipment -or let you try ?? |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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In your conditions, I'd want to Go Big to maximize my planing potential and TOW. 150 - 200 liters, fast enough, easy to jibe and slog, and a smooth ride in your degree of chop. Going Small is for maneuverability in significant terrain or for WSing out of a Prius. Unless you want to race in organized events, maybe your question should be "What would be the highest volume short (no daggerboard) board that meets those criteria and I can carry on my car?"
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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118 Tabou Rocket wide
122 RRD FIREMOVE
FROM your description , my prescription .
Other selections in this group , will also I'm sure work, these 2 I know. _________________ K4 fins
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iamjnelson
Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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I'd also say go big. More fun sooner and less frustration. When you get into more and progress then get something around 95-105 range.
I love my Starboard Futura 141, also works for wind and wave SUP, and big enough for lightwind freestyle and easier than Isonic but still fast. It was my first non-daggerboard board. There are many like this these days.
I also have a Angulo Release 120 but usually just bring the Futura as my big board (then drop to a 105 then 89). Though it is fast and a bit better in chop but not enough to be worth not planing and I have a small car. |
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jingebritsen
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jpeter
Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Posts: 353
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Get a 5.2 to 5.5 sail and a board in the 100 liter area. You could get a decent used sail for $200 and a used board for twice that. You are not going to advance much on a medium big board and big sail. You mentioned going in the spring and fall so low to mid 5 meter range isn't that small. At 155lbs you should plane at 17mph with a 5.2
good luck, JP |
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