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mamero
Joined: 25 Aug 2013 Posts: 380 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:34 pm Post subject: Mast Extensions. Carbon VS Aluminum. |
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Carbon Mast Extensions. Are they worth the upgrade?
I sail with "bread-n-butter" Chinook SDM aluminum extensions. In my continuing quest to upgrade my gear I'm curious if the "upgrade" from aluminum to carbon has any real benefit. Will the strength/weight saved justify the weight saving in my wallet?
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wynsurfer
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 940
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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If you sail in salt water I would say yes, carbon is far superior as it does not react with the salt. I bought an aluminum one a few years back and regret buying it.
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mamero
Joined: 25 Aug 2013 Posts: 380 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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I am a salt water sailor but so far have not been affected by corrosion on my extensions. I owned an aluminum boom that was affected with corrosion but it was upgraded to carbon long ago.
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techno900
Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4164
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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I had Neil Pryde carbon extensions several years back. All blew up with large formula sails with ton's of down haul. Have had three aluminum extensions for years, in salt and fresh water with no issues. I don't think carbon is worth it.
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mamero
Joined: 25 Aug 2013 Posts: 380 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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"Blew up"? Yikes! I thought carbon is supposed to be stronger. I guess when carbon does fail it does so catastrophically where as aluminum just bends.
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have both the Chinook Euro-pin carbon and aluminum extensions, and the weight difference really isn't that great. On the other hand, I have an old Fiberspar two-pin SDM carbon extension that is feather light. It's so light because there are no holes drilled into it for adjustment, so the wall thickness is much thinner (similar to a SD mast). Instead, it uses a collar that rests on an movable clip that fits into grooves machined into extension. Once you start drilling holes into a carbon extension, you need to beef up the wall thickness maintain strength. That drives up the weight.
Actually, the holes in the Chinook carbon extension worry me, so I now use the aluminum extension instead to avoid the risk of breakage. Like I said, the weight difference between the two isn't much.
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techno900
Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4164
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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The part of the Neil Pryde extensions that "blew up" were the pulley assemblies. They just couldn't handle the downhaul tension.
Now matter the weight difference, it isn't enough to make ANY difference in performance, in my opinion.
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Arrgh
Joined: 05 May 1998 Posts: 864 Location: Rio
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW, in a recent "Windsurfing Now" article, Derek Rijff notes two differences that are mostly noticeable in longer extensions:
1. Weight, particularly in longer rdm extensions.
2. Bend curve that better matches your carbon mast.
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swchandler
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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techno900, if I recollect correctly, for a while Fiberspar and Neil Pryde had the same pulley assembly. In the past, one of pulley assemblies on my Fiberspar extension blew up while rigging an 8.1 race sail. I have to admit that the pulley assemblies on the Fiberspars is not nearly as beefy as the Chinooks are today.
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RaceboardDude
Joined: 08 Dec 2010 Posts: 86
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Have both the carbon and aluminum Chinook EP SDM medium extensions. No noticeable difference and after several seasons of moderate use, zero problems in salt water. For the $49 difference in price you might as well buy two. That said I usually rig on the bling carbon only because...uh, it's CARBON.
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