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joethewindsufa
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bred2shred
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| U2U2U2 wrote: |
would you actually recommend someone to not get a formula board, when they may need a weed fin ? |
Hard to say. If it is a place with a heavy amount of weeds (like say Hatteras), I would give it some serious consideration before going for a Formula board. A large free-ride or slalom board would probably be a better choice and just sacrifice those bottom few knots of planing performance. If it is a place with only light to moderate weeds (like where I sail), then I would get the Formula board and just plan on having to jump in and clear the fin every now and again.
| U2U2U2 wrote: | | Not disputing your findings, perhaps a fraction upwind is a stretch. |
Not a stretch. There is no comparison between the upwind performance of a formula board with a 70cm straight fin vs a weed fin. Formula equipment is designed for early planing and being able to sail at extreme upwind and downwind angles for course racing. With a weed fin, you are basically just reaching BAF and the board is stuck to the water - the board simply does not perform the same.
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U2U2U2
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| jingebritsen wrote: | | one can free up the board, any, when using weeders to some extent by moving base all the way back. formula weed? bad all around. better to go to ocean with it when at OBX. |
Hatteras is mentioned by a previous posted. The OP sails on a Lake in Canada.
Very few formula boards in Hatteras
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U2U2U2
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| bred2shred wrote: | | U2U2U2 wrote: |
would you actually recommend someone to not get a formula board, when they may need a weed fin ? |
Hard to say. If it is a place with a heavy amount of weeds (like say Hatteras), I would give it some serious consideration before going for a Formula board. A large free-ride or slalom board would probably be a better choice and just sacrifice those bottom few knots of planing performance. If it is a place with only light to moderate weeds (like where I sail), then I would get the Formula board and just plan on having to jump in and clear the fin every now and again.
| U2U2U2 wrote: | | Not disputing your findings, perhaps a fraction upwind is a stretch. |
Not a stretch. There is no comparison between the upwind performance of a formula board with a 70cm straight fin vs a weed fin. Formula equipment is designed for early planing and being able to sail at extreme upwind and downwind angles for course racing. With a weed fin, you are basically just reaching BAF and the board is stuck to the water - the board simply does not perform the same.
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The PO sails in Canada on a lake. So OBX is not in the equation. Formula boards there are seldom seen.
Thx for your explation on upwind.
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techno900
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| If not racing, the loss of some upwind performance on a Formula with a weed fin means very little. |
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bred2shred
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| U2U2U2 wrote: |
The PO sails in Canada on a lake. So OBX is not in the equation. Formula boards there are seldom seen. |
Totally understood. Only referenced Hatteras because it is a venue that more or less "requires" the use of a weed fin and which many are familiar with. I agree, very few Formula boards are seen there - because (1) it's too shallow and (2) there are too many weeds.....
| jingebritsen wrote: | | better to go to ocean with it when at OBX. |
I would not recommend anyone take a Formula board in the ocean (thru the surf) unless you are very experienced and/or have equipment sponsors willing to replace your gear. One wave could very easily destroy several thousand dollars worth of equipment.
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atlas.wave55
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I read that article it is very interesting but aren't formula boards meant for moderate to light winds, in that top picture of article shows someone on a formula board in decently high chop:?
I checked out a website called RigGeek and typed in my Wight(130lbs) and target wind speed of 16 km or 9 knots and found out that I can get planing in 16 km with a 7m sail and 50-60cm fin witch is what I think would work well for me. In the formula article the small sails are around 9m and biggest ones around 11-12m.I think that would be way over kill at my weight. |
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joethewindsufa
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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dat iz vat i said !!
also check board recommendations @ your weight on riggeek and james douglass' website ...
MUCH smaller than Formula for a BIG fellow like yourself !! |
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