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atlas.wave55



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:58 pm    Post subject: One board quiver-formula Reply with quote

I wanted to know if you could go with a one board quiver-formula board for just cursing around to maximize time on water and have like an 8m. And secondly if you did, how hard is it to handle a formula board in up to 30km for a light guy 135 lbs. I`ve herd it can get a bit tricky keeping the board flat in high wind. But how often do you fall off a 1m wind board LoL.
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cgoudie1



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: One board quiver-formula Reply with quote

If you want a 1 board quiver, from 0 to 19MPH (30Km/hr) at 135 lbs,
A formula board and an 8M sail is a poor choice. What you want (and I
can't believe the words are coming out of my fingers) is a long board,
probably a Kona, with a 7M longboard sail.

An experienced formula sailor can handle 19mph and maybe more with
an 8M sail, but it'd be a stretch for a 135lb sailor.

Describe your conditions, and we can give better input.

-Craig

atlas.wave55 wrote:
I wanted to know if you could go with a one board quiver-formula board for just cursing around to maximize time on water and have like an 8m. And secondly if you did, how hard is it to handle a formula board in up to 30km for a light guy 135 lbs. I`ve herd it can get a bit tricky keeping the board flat in high wind. But how often do you fall off a 1m wind board LoL.
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DelCarpenter



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Location: Cedar Falls, IA

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most important element in maximizing time on the water is the rider's willingness to go, even when the conditions are not perfect. Using a formula board as the only board might maximize planing, but it would also either maximize schlogging or tend to minimize time on the water.

For me the second most important element in maximizing time on the water is having equipment suitable for all the conditions my location gets. Personally, I would rather have cheap, old, not so pretty equipment covering ALL of the conditions than have perfect equipment for most of the conditions.
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joethewindsufa



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP did say 135 pounds up to 30 kph winds ??
that's about 61 kilos up to 16 knots of wind
which is a lightweight in light wind

so, why go all the way to a formula ??
very wide board with typically very long fins ...

at that weight you can plane in a hummingbird's fart (quoted from john ingebritsen)
can use something MUCH smaller , less wide and requiring smaller fins

something like a BIC Nova, BIC Techno Formula or even 70-80 cm wide shorboards with 7.x sails !!!
i use an 8.5 sail on a longboard for one board , one sail quiver in light winds, but am almost twice your weight

check these (one is a Formula)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEAzC0yOHds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThgTKTFAY1I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Ekoto5iXY

for what it is worth - in really light winds, a long board still glides Confused

and ...there are other light wind weapons on the market now:



and if you wanna go when the water is like a sheet of ice/glass - kite ?? Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5qGepym5AA

lotsa nice used boards at this time of year:

http://www.windsurfing.qc.ca/classifieds/1294/2547/planche-ahd-130l

http://www.windsurfing.qc.ca/classifieds/320/2540/shark-150-ltd-a-condition

and yes, there are Formula boards too ...
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whitevan01



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: One board quiver-formula Reply with quote

atlas.wave55 wrote:
I wanted to know if you could go with a one board quiver-formula board for just cursing around to maximize time on water and have like an 8m. And secondly if you did, how hard is it to handle a formula board in up to 30km for a light guy 135 lbs. I`ve herd it can get a bit tricky keeping the board flat in high wind. But how often do you fall off a 1m wind board LoL.


don't sail formula, but I might imagine that a one board quiver might really have you CURSING around. HAHA
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jingebritsen



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

long board or race board may be the ticket.

i disagree with rating above.

ridden the JP SLW. it requires an expert to plane thru jibes.
ridden lots of exocet race boards, they do not. long boards are even easier in corners.

exocet RS 6, with 2 fins may be all you need for a board. 46 cm and 40.

sail? 8.0 aerotech freespeed or similar. something with lotsa battens. cams optional. i use my 9.0 with lotsa down haul, and tune for conditions with out haul and grommet choices. upper grommet for lightest of winds coupled with least out haul. as wind gets stronger, lower grommets and increase out haul.

http://www.exocet-original.com/rs.php

http://www.exocet-original.com/rs380-elite.php

http://store.konaone.com/us/

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atlas.wave55



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the posts. But I still like the formula option for a light wind weapon. But forgot to mention that I still have a 110 litre board that I've been debating to keep mostly because the wind is usually never strong enough to get that board planing with a 4.5m sail.

If I were to keep that board what sail should I go with on that board for sailing in 25-35km?
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techno900



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want to cruise around in winds in the 9-12 knot range or do you want to plane in this narrow wind range? Answer that and you will know what to buy. Longboard or big freeride. I had three formula boards and in your case, a freeride would be a better choice if you are looking for light wind planing, in my opinion.

Remember, good pumping skills are essential to get a formula or freeride planing in the 10 knot range.
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wynsurfer



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I weigh about 145-150 lbs I have a 107 liter board that I sail with a 6.5 in winds of 25-35 kph, 16-22 mph so 6.0-6.5 should be good. I'd keep the 110 L board. If I had only one board it would be a long board, works in winds of 5-40+ kph. Why limit yourself to only one board?
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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Formula board would work, ________ insert other board , would work.

It rather depends on what you are looking to achieve and what you are willing to give up.

Most windsurf boards ... All..? Don't stay flat on the water.

At your weight I would go small if I went a Formula, and consider a ProKids 117l Starboard. It works for me, abet heavy, back to back faster than my big one. My feeling is not how much speed, but enough to plane.

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