View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
loopless
Joined: 30 Jun 1997 Posts: 426
|
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:17 pm Post subject: Compact/Stubby Wave Boards.. |
|
|
I am a convert to stubby wave boards , or at least compact ones like my Quatro Cube 85.
I think a lot of people think the stubby designs might be just another fad invented by the industry - I was definitely a bit skeptical, but I'm a convert now.
In the last 6 months I've sailed my board in conditions from 5.7 down to solid 4.2 San Carlos in head-high plus surf. Plus some flat water in 4.2 wind on a 4.7 ( bad choice).
Here are the pros
- The shortness just makes it snappy on the wave.
- Amazing 'range'. I have now sold all my other wave boards except for my 102L big board. I was more comfortable on my Cube 85 than my JP 74L Quad Pro ( traditional shape) in 4.2 over head DTL sailing. This is a big deal for the average,non-sponsored, sailor to have one board for 'all 'conditions. Packing for Baja just got much easier.
- When you get worked, the shortness plays huge dividends in reducing the "torque" on ankles and knees.
I have been sailing for 30 years, and I think back to the days of 'plowing the field' in the old fiberglass 'short' boards, and thank my lucky stars that boards ( and everything else) are just so much better. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
skyking1231
Joined: 10 Jul 2000 Posts: 280
|
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
How is it sailing when there are no waves? Bump-n-jump conditions? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
|
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Compact/Stubby Wave Boards.. |
|
|
loopless wrote: | I think back to the days of 'plowing the field' in the old fiberglass 'short' boards, and thank my lucky stars that boards ( and everything else) are just so much better. |
Or at least different. "Better" is a highly subjective term, highly dependent on each sailor's needs and preferences. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DanWeiss
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 2296 Location: Connecticut, USA
|
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Compact/Stubby Wave Boards.. |
|
|
isobars wrote: | loopless wrote: | I think back to the days of 'plowing the field' in the old fiberglass 'short' boards, and thank my lucky stars that boards ( and everything else) are just so much better. |
Or at least different. "Better" is a highly subjective term, highly dependent on each sailor's needs and preferences. |
It's also implied that the writer speaks for his own experience first and shares so others may be informed by his thoughts and impressions.
You regularly sound off about how one board might not be the best at one thing but great at others, and offer a list of variables to add color but apparently intended to bolster your argument.
Arguing an axiom or maxim is the epitome of wasted energy. Thus, I will now cease. See what I did there? _________________ Support Your Sport. Join US Windsurfing!
www.USWindsurfing.org |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DanWeiss
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 2296 Location: Connecticut, USA
|
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Compact/Stubby Wave Boards.. |
|
|
loopless wrote: | I am a convert to stubby wave boards , or at least compact ones like my Quatro Cube 85.
I think a lot of people think the stubby designs might be just another fad invented by the industry - I was definitely a bit skeptical, but I'm a convert now.
In the last 6 months I've sailed my board in conditions from 5.7 down to solid 4.2 San Carlos in head-high plus surf. Plus some flat water in 4.2 wind on a 4.7 ( bad choice).
Here are the pros
- The shortness just makes it snappy on the wave.
- Amazing 'range'. I have now sold all my other wave boards except for my 102L big board. I was more comfortable on my Cube 85 than my JP 74L Quad Pro ( traditional shape) in 4.2 over head DTL sailing. This is a big deal for the average,non-sponsored, sailor to have one board for 'all 'conditions. Packing for Baja just got much easier.
- When you get worked, the shortness plays huge dividends in reducing the "torque" on ankles and knees.
I have been sailing for 30 years, and I think back to the days of 'plowing the field' in the old fiberglass 'short' boards, and thank my lucky stars that boards ( and everything else) are just so much better. |
Thanks for the helpful description. I'm again loaded with boards just to cover the conditions. My 74 liter wave board works fine, but requires so much more out of me than an 89 liter almost-wave even in really windy conditions. That hull is nearing its natural death as it's rocker went weird this summer, so I do appreciate that you shared specific thoughts on the Cube 85. _________________ Support Your Sport. Join US Windsurfing!
www.USWindsurfing.org |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
|
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I couldn't agree with loopless more.
A few other pluses~
That added width makes slogging thru the holes easier due to its added stability.
Foam distribution is vastly improved. Old school boards have too much foam in front of the mast and not enough where you stand leading the board being unstable when underpowered. What good does that long nose do you when its sticking up in the air when going slow? None.
I can take my newer board out in much lighter wind than my older one with similar volume, for those very reasons.
Wave carving is much easier with less length to swing around, and a template that isn't so straight.
They are also easier on the sails during a wipeout, no long nose to go thru or damage the sail. And the rig is easier on the board w/o having that long nose out there just waiting to get smashed.
After windsurfing since '84, I was looking for something to re-stoke my love for the sport, and these boards are just what I needed.
I'm a hard core convert at 66 years old.
Actually at 64 when I did my first conversion.
Only one advantage of an old school wave board that I can think of, when powered up they go faster, but not that much, and so what, we are out there for the waves. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Gorge_R_and_D
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 14
|
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Agree as well, new compact shapes are super fun. I would add that they work great in Bump & Jump. Depends on the specific board though, I loved my 2013 Fanatic Quad or lately the Quatro Super Mini which is really fast! The Cube is a great board, but not even a really fast compared to The new Goya Custom or Super Mini... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
wdsurf
Joined: 22 May 1999 Posts: 335
|
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:08 pm Post subject: Compact wave boards |
|
|
After windsurfing for 35 years these short compact boards are just what we need!!!own quatro super mini 103@78.the 103 is my lite wind board for 4.5 to 5.5.the 78 WAS my higher wind board from 5.0 down but my wife claimed it as her own.these things work from flat water b@j to logo high mush on the Great Lakes where we call home.being in our early 60,s these sticks make sailing super fun and easy.for high wind we ride Goya Custom Quads 68@80.don,t look back try a mini or stubby and you to might be a convert to the modern era |
|
Back to top |
|
|
jingebritsen
Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
wdsurf
Joined: 22 May 1999 Posts: 335
|
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:08 am Post subject: Short New Shapes |
|
|
Sail these things in dead on shore and they are super fun never had a board plane so quick in Onshore wind shore break current.103 Ltrs floats my 180 lbs in 5m hooded suit in fresh water fine |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You can attach files in this forum You can download files in this forum
|
|
|