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isobars
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| jingebritsen wrote: | big note, lots on these forums buy stuff based on california, hawaii, and other windy spot inputs.
you guys can love on your ideal conditions crap all you want. |
The article I cited above emphasizes that stubbies are a classic case of boards optimized for ideal conditions ... side-on waves with glassy faces. The only place I've ever even seen that from up close is in magazines. The emphasis of the entire, LONG article was why "today's stubby wave boards make lousy B&J boards". |
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Number-nine
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I am sure we can all argue for a few hundred more posts.
It till help the winter pass by.
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Iso your article is now 8 years old. Maybe some thing has changed since then. Might be better might not depends on you or me.
I am lucky to be able to ride in some nice conditions every now and then but most of the time i sail in some pretty scrappy stuff. And in all conditions. straight on shore to side off shore. I am happy with short multi fin boards in all. The boards and sails have come a long way from what they were.
That is what works for me.
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isobars
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| Number-nine wrote: | | Iso your article is now 8 years old. Maybe some thing has changed since then. Might be better might not depends on you or me. The boards and sails have come a long way from what they were. That is what works for me. |
I, too, am concerned about the age of the article. That's why I occasionally inquire about, test, or even buy newer boards, including stubbies. I've seen nothing yet that renders that article obsolete, and I've said countless times that the most vital three words in any gear appraisal are "For", "Me", and "Preferences".
Just weeks ago a very good Gorge sailor told me, 'Ya know, I finally agree with you on the comparison between Trads and Stubbies. I like my traditional, old school wave boards better than my stubbies." (He also very seldom sails smooth faces.) It's all about each individual's objectives, preferences, and venues. |
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wdsurf
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:22 pm Post subject: New style boards |
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I sail in some of the most F--k--d up conditions imanageable on Lake Erie!yesterday was 4.0 on the Goya 80 wouldn't,t trade trade my 2 new boards for any old boards just my 2 cents don,t mean shit have fun keep sailing where ever or whatever you are sailing on  |
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U2U2U2
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| isobars wrote: | | Number-nine wrote: | | Iso your article is now 8 years old. Maybe some thing has changed since then. Might be better might not depends on you or me. The boards and sails have come a long way from what they were. That is what works for me. |
I, too, am concerned about the age of the article. That's why I occasionally inquire about, test, or even buy newer boards, including stubbies. I've seen nothing yet that renders that article obsolete, and I've said countless times that the most vital three words in any gear appraisal are "For", "Me", and "Preferences".
Just weeks ago a very good Gorge sailor told me, 'Ya know, I finally agree with you on the comparison between Trads and Stubbies. I like my traditional, old school wave boards better than my stubbies." (He also very seldom sails smooth faces.) It's all about each individual's objectives, preferences, and venues. |
The discussion as I see it is about the newest generation from 2015 versions, of stubby, some are actually are called that, Fanatic.
In 2004 Starboard s Evo at around 236 cm long, was a compact shape, the test link from Boards mag. in 2008 has a Average length of 230.5. The current crop of boards are 212--218cm long.
Tests on 9yo boards don't fall into cutting edge, except the Witchcraft
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jingebritsen
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when it is blowing 4.0, virtually any tiny kit will do.
when it's blowing 10-16 with superb, long interval waves, and the wind is side on, or side off, specifics matter a whole lot more. the more onshore it is the less likely short and stubby boards have a chance to work.
all i have been saying is buyer beware. for decades, i have seen people buy stuff that works in ideal conditions, then hardly ever sail anymore here in florida. if in waves, get the gear that your local wave sailors excel on.
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loopless
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| Number-nine wrote: |
I am lucky to be able to ride in some nice conditions every now and then but most of the time i sail in some pretty scrappy stuff. And in all conditions. straight on shore to side off shore. I am happy with short multi fin boards in all. The boards and sails have come a long way from what they were.
That is what works for me. |
Could not have put it better. A lot of my sailing is slogging around in 12-15+mph competing with kiters. I ride a RRD Firewave 102L on those days. I suppose it's not a stubby - still bloody short compared to older style boards, and it works great, better than any of my many light wind wave boards going back 30 years. Including an original WindSurfer! If you want a thrill try riding one of those on a wave. |
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swchandler
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| Careful guys, didn't isobars invent the term "stubbies"? |
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