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rollerrider



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one board is appropriate for everything. That's why we have vans and trailers for all this crap. And yeah we waist money on trendy products to change things up a bit. Stubbys may not be good for everything like free riding, but wait, Fanatic is making a stubby free ride now too. And what about formulas are they stuby?
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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.boards.co.uk/showthread.php/77785-Witchcraft-wave-V4-86l

Might want to read some unbiased remarks on the Stubby.

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capetonian



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

capetonian wrote:
I have the Goya Custom Quad 116 L (231 cm so not technically a stubby) and the Quattro Cube 95 L (223 cm so just short enough to be a stubby). I sail in Central Florida and weigh 175 lb.

The Goya 116 L is a revelation for cross onshore wave riding. Before the Goya I had a 2012 110 L Quattro Cube and before that an 2006 Exocet Exo-wave 105 L. Both of my previous 2 boards were excellent light wind cross shore wave boards, but both came up short for wave riding in cross on. The Exocet with its big single fin was great for planing up quickly and getting out over the waves, but never liked the instant snappy bottom turns that cross onshore wave riding requires. I've set the Goya up as a twin fin with 18 cm fins and covers over the thruster boxes. In this set up, as long as there is enough wind to plane (big if in Central Florida), I point off the wind and pump the sail and the board pops onto a plane and speeds out to the back line. Once on a wave it excels at those short snappy bottom turns and slashing top turns that cross onshore wave riding requires. Plus it keeps its speed through the bottom turn better than any other board I've used to date.

The Quattro Cube 95 L is unfortunately just too small for Central Florida. I've used it once in about 25 mph straight onshore at Cherie Down, and it was a rocket ship, fast to plane and snappy on the turns. Massive backside aerials were childs play. But that was nearly 10 months ago and it hasn't blown strong enough to use it since then.

So my conclusion based on that single session is stubbies aren't just hype, they do work, provided you have wind.


2 years later still riding the Cube 95 L and the Goya 116 L and still loving them. Added a Fanatic Freewave Stubby 105 L that is phenomenal for the straight onshore or onshore with slight cross shore days, and still pretty damn good on the cross shore days.
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dmilovich



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Cap:
What fins are you using on the FW STB 105 most often? Sail size(s)? Thanks!
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is an "unbiased remark" on ANYTHING?
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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
What is an "unbiased remark" on ANYTHING?


You are referring to my post 3 back , to look at a link, and phrase unbiased

This post was 29Jan 2017, 20.5 months ago.

You dont go around looking for fights do you ?

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cgoudie1



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely Amigo!

There's been a guy (a pretty big guy) out at Doug's this
Autumn with a Witchcraft Stubby. He seems to rip on that board.
I don't know if it's a good board or not but he seems to think so.

My old buddy Peter Berkey rides "conventional" style Open Oceans
(which are not stubby) he rips too, and seems to like them.

Having ridden both styles, I'm kinda fond of shorter wider boards
in smaller sizes (not sure yet about larger sizes) , but you have to
get the planform the way I like it.

Don't make me come out there and superglue your feet to my new stubby
freestyle Skate. You have to like it even if you don't!

You must like it!
You vill like it!
Sign zee papers!

;*) ;*) ;*)

-Craig



isobars wrote:
What is an "unbiased remark" on ANYTHING?
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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, the Witchcraft Reaper, their company wave.

Witchcraft line of boards is amazing . Any chance you know what size ?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! It took 24 tries to post this.

Neither I, Capetonian, nor dmilovich noticed the age of the thread nor of your comment. Craig illustrated the bias present in any "remarks", particularly in his example involving performance criteria. Readers interested in information rather than confrontation tend to overlook dates in the fine print.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmilovich wrote:
@Cap:
What fins are you using on the FW STB 105 most often? Sail size(s)? Thanks!


I'm still on the stock fins. Mostly use a 6.7 and 6.2 with this board, but have used it with a 5.5 and was still easy to use. On my previous (single fin) FSW I had a different fin for each sail size and was using a 31 cm fin with my 6.7. So I guess the hull shape on the Fanatic FW Stubby must somehow make up for the small fins (20 cm center and 12 cm sides).
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