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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, much different. Financials +12%, tech -3%..Its like 2000-2001, massive switch to value , low P/E stocks...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!

Pelosi fends off challenge to leadership
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/308034-pelosi-holds-onto-leadership

Sticking with the old playbook, which is great, congressional dems have lost 68 seats since 2010, now have the smallest majority since 1929.
The old farts from the old school will all stay in power.
Pelosi 76
Hoyer 77
Clyburn 76
Where as the GOP leadership in congress are in their 40 and 50's.

Let the failed old playbook of the dems continue, along with their repudiation.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Some of the dusty old alligators are worth keeping.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get it. Trump appointees with a conflict of interest that will help concentrate wealth at the top of the society are ok, whether they have skill and experience or not. Drain the swamp was a slogan, just like build the wall. Those worried about the future of jobs got snookered by a con man. As we knew going in.

Matty--it would be nice if you actually knew something. Anything at all. The Obama economy actually has a record--unknown to those who rely on the Drudge report and Breitbart:

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Since the job market bottomed out in January 2010, in the depths of the Great Recession, the U.S. economy has produced more than 14 million jobs. That's pushed the total level of payrolls some 5.7 million higher than when the recession hit in late 2007.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/obamas-record-on-jobs-versus-five-other-presidents.html

But watch when his hedge fund appointees push for deregulation of the financial system so we can build another bubble. And the Republicans push a health bill that provides even more goodies for big pharma.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
I get it. Trump appointees with a conflict of interest that will help concentrate wealth at the top of the society are ok, whether they have skill and experience or not. Drain the swamp was a slogan, just like build the wall. Those worried about the future of jobs got snookered by a con man. As we knew going in.

Matty--it would be nice if you actually knew something. Anything at all. The Obama economy actually has a record--unknown to those who rely on the Drudge report and Breitbart:

Quote:
Since the job market bottomed out in January 2010, in the depths of the Great Recession, the U.S. economy has produced more than 14 million jobs. That's pushed the total level of payrolls some 5.7 million higher than when the recession hit in late 2007.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/obamas-record-on-jobs-versus-five-other-presidents.html

But watch when his hedge fund appointees push for deregulation of the financial system so we can build another bubble. And the Republicans push a health bill that provides even more goodies for big pharma.


We know the record, and only a libtard like you would defend it. The community agitator spent his first two years passing a lawless bill that is about to be dismantled, HOW'S THAT FEEL OLD BEARDED FOOL?????
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how much big pharma stock do you own?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
mac wrote:
I get it. Trump appointees with a conflict of interest that will help concentrate wealth at the top of the society are ok, whether they have skill and experience or not. Drain the swamp was a slogan, just like build the wall. Those worried about the future of jobs got snookered by a con man. As we knew going in.

Matty--it would be nice if you actually knew something. Anything at all. The Obama economy actually has a record--unknown to those who rely on the Drudge report and Breitbart:

Quote:
Since the job market bottomed out in January 2010, in the depths of the Great Recession, the U.S. economy has produced more than 14 million jobs. That's pushed the total level of payrolls some 5.7 million higher than when the recession hit in late 2007.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/obamas-record-on-jobs-versus-five-other-presidents.html

But watch when his hedge fund appointees push for deregulation of the financial system so we can build another bubble. And the Republicans push a health bill that provides even more goodies for big pharma.


We know the record, and only a libtard like you would defend it. The community agitator spent his first two years passing a lawless bill that is about to be dismantled, HOW'S THAT FEEL OLD BEARDED FOOL?????


a spoiled trust fund kid.... seems a bunch of coal miners are wanting their free healtcare... that voted for trump... lets see if he drains the swamp..

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that even the Wall Street Journal says that Trump should sell his assets and put them into a blind trust, let's take a tour of his new, larger, more corrupt alligators. We'll start with Betsy DeVoss, his pick for education secretary. She has no real experience with the existing schools in the country, since she refused to send her children to public schools in her upscale community. Nor does she have any education--but I guess we know that isn't necessary. Is she a breath of clean air? No, highly contaminated.

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Amber Arellano, the executive director of the Education Trust-Midwest, an advocacy group in Michigan that supports charters but has been critical of a Michigan charter school law that Ms. DeVos has spent millions to defend, said the pick had “the potential to undermine the nation’s hard-won progress by diverting resources from the young people who most need them, or by failing to uphold the federal government’s responsibility to protecting the needs and interests of all students — especially the most vulnerable.”
Michigan is one of the nation’s biggest school choice laboratories, especially with charter schools. The Detroit, Flint and Grand Rapids school districts have among the nation’s 10 largest shares of students in charters, and the state sends $1 billion in education funding to charters annually. Of those schools, 80 percent are run by for-profit organizations, a far higher share than anywhere else in the nation.
The DeVoses, the most prominent name in state Republican politics, have been the biggest financial and political backers of the effort.

But if Michigan is a center of school choice, it is also among the worst places to argue that choice has made schools better. As the state embraced and then expanded charters over the past two decades, its rank has fallen on national reading and math tests. Most charter schools perform below the state average.

And a federal review in 2015 found “an unreasonably high” percentage of charter schools on the list of the state’s lowest-performing schools. The number of charter schools on that list had doubled since 2010, after the passage of a law a group financed by Ms. DeVos pushed to expand the schools. The group blocked a provision in that law that would have prevented failing schools from expanding or replicating.


So does she pick fine people to work with? Nope. Crooks and liars.

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In 2004, Betsy DeVos hired Scott Jensen to aid the legislative agenda of her group "American Federation for Children" (AFC), a 501(c)(4) arm of Alliance for School Choice, her 501(c)3), which push so-called education reform measures.

The problem is that in 2002, Jensen had been charged with three felonies and a misdemeanor for misconduct in office--for illegally using his office as the Republican Assembly Speaker to direct that state employees to perform campaign work at public expense. He and the others who were charged challenged the reach of state statutes in court through various appeals from 2002 through 2004, but they lost their efforts to prevent criminal trials.

But, the fact that Jensen was charged with felonies for misusing public tax dollars for partisan political purposes did not deter Betsy DeVos from hiring him in 2004 to advance her personal agenda to change American schools on behalf of AFC.

In 2005, he was tried in state court and convicted on all counts. The presiding judge told Jensen "what you did was a great wrong to the citizens of this state" because "You used your power and your influence to run an illegal campaign funding operation." The judge sentenced Jensen to five years, including 15 months of confinement along with supervised release.

That conviction and public condemnation did not end Jensen's job for Betsy DeVos. Jensen appealed his conviction, and he also lost his office in the legislature, but he had a job with DeVos.




More bigger alligators next post.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You neo love it or leave it guys missed one of the essential lessons of the 1960's and 1970's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

Next alligator up: Steve Mnuchin

One of those who made a fortune in the collapse of the housing market. King of foreclosures:

[quote]A bank established by President-elect Donald Trump's choice for Treasury secretary, Steve Mnuchin, once tried to foreclose on a 90-year-old Florida woman over a $0.27 payment mistake, reported Politico Thursday. Critics in the story allege that OneWest, founded by Mnuchin and partners, took advantage of the 2008 housing collapse by buying out risky loans from mortgage lender IndyMac and, in turn, getting help from Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to cover the costs.

OneWest has been widely criticized for its aggressive foreclosure tactics, and Politico surfaced an especially troubling example from two years ago that involved 90-year-old Ossie Lofton in Lakeland, Florida. She had apparently take out a reverse mortgage, a loan that allows older homeowners to use to equity they've built up in their homes to get cash without a monthly payment plan.

Lofton reportedly owed the bank $423.30 after some confusion insurance coverage. She mistakenly sent a check for only $430. OneWest sent another bill for $0.30 but Lofton sent the bank just $0.03. OneWest, in turn, foreclosed. Florida Rural Legal Services, a non-profit, challenged the foreclosure and requested the local court for a jury trial last month.

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Yessiree, privatize profits, socialism for risk. Biggest alligator?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another big alligator, Second killer of coal miners in the cabinet:

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On the campaign trail, President-elect Donald Trump made a big promise to coal miners, many of whom have lost their jobs as the industry collapses. "We’re going to get those miners back to work," he said during his victory speech in May after securing the GOP presidential nomination. "Let me tell you, the miners in West Virginia and Pennsylvania… they're going to start to work again. Believe me. You're going to be proud again to be miners." Trump went on to win the nation's top four coal-producing states: Wyoming, West Virginia, Kentucky and Pennsylvania. (Clinton won the fifth, Illinois.)

But Trump's commitment to out-of-work miners appears to have faltered, as his top pick for Commerce Secretary is Wilbur Ross Jr., a New York billionaire who owned the now-defunct Sago mine in West Virginia where 12 miners were killed in an explosion in 2006. The blast and ensuing collapse trapped 13 miners for almost two days. Only one survived. At the time, it was the deadliest mining disaster the Mountain State had experienced in nearly four decades. (It was eclipsed in 2010, when an explosion at Upper Big Branch Mine, also in West Virginia, killed 29 miners.)

In 2004, the federal Mine Safety and Health Administration, a division of the Labor Department, slapped Sago with 140 violations. Apparently, those citations didn't force Ross to improve his mine's safety: In 2005, MSHA cited the mine with even more violations, 208 total. Of those, 96 were considered "significant" or "serious and substantial." Barely into the following year, on Jan. 2, 2006, the deadly blast occurred.


Wait, was Bush president? Was McConnell's wife secretary of labor? Who believed an oligarch would do anything for non-oligarch's?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac, mac, mac, mac, mac
That's all I've got to say.
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