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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just returned from 10 days at Squaw, and after this week they are getting 10-12 feet..Then I'm going back , it's going to an Epic winter, already have 22 days in.😀
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mrgybe



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't this be on the Global Cooling thread?
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
NP...thanks for bringing me in...No worries my friend from the North, I'll pay more federal taxes in 2016 than 20 Trump voters made during the year.. I won't be waiting for thank you notes.
And I'm having hard time with your math.. work 10-12 hr days AND travel all over North America hunting wind and mountain biking..??


You really sound like a Range Rover douche at times. I know at least 20 Trump supporters that I a am 100% certain you did not pay more taxes than they earned.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
NP...thanks for bringing me in...No worries my friend from the North, I'll pay more federal taxes in 2016 than 20 Trump voters made during the year.. I won't be waiting for thank you notes.
And I'm having hard time with your math.. work 10-12 hr days AND travel all over North America hunting wind and mountain biking..??


You really sound like a Range Rover douche at times. I know at least 20 Trump supporters that I a am 100% certain you did not pay more taxes than they earned.

It's by design Matty, kind of like your comments....I'm going to challenge your 20 Trump supporter comment... I work in an office of almost all Republcans, most of which make large seven figure incomes, and I only know of one who voted for Trump.
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KGB-NP



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
NP...thanks for bringing me in...No worries my friend from the North, I'll pay more federal taxes in 2016 than 20 Trump voters made during the year.. I won't be waiting for thank you notes.
And I'm having hard time with your math.. work 10-12 hr days AND travel all over North America hunting wind and mountain biking..??


You really sound like a Range Rover douche at times. I know at least 20 Trump supporters that I a am 100% certain you did not pay more taxes than they earned.

It's by design Matty, kind of like your comments....I'm going to challenge your 20 Trump supporter comment... I work in an office of almost all Republcans, most of which make large seven figure incomes, and I only know of one who voted for Trump.


The others haven't come out of the closet yet. They're worried about all the hater Trumpaphobe attacks. I heard there's a bakery in SF that wouldn't take an order from a couple with Trump T-shirts on.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
NP...thanks for bringing me in...No worries my friend from the North, I'll pay more federal taxes in 2016 than 20 Trump voters made during the year.. I won't be waiting for thank you notes.
And I'm having hard time with your math.. work 10-12 hr days AND travel all over North America hunting wind and mountain biking..??


You really sound like a Range Rover douche at times. I know at least 20 Trump supporters that I a am 100% certain you did not pay more taxes than they earned.

It's by design Matty, kind of like your comments....I'm going to challenge your 20 Trump supporter comment... I work in an office of almost all Republcans, most of which make large seven figure incomes, and I only know of one who voted for Trump.



So they say Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Most of the seven figure crowd are the establishment a-holes that are as out of touch as most liberals. Thankfully they represent less than 1%. Really not a big fan of that crowd, those are the guys who take private lessons so they can cut the line all day, and sit in the front row at a Who concert and smoke cigars with their purple cuffed fitted shirts on.....no thanks.
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KGB-NP



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just paid $30 extra for the fire exit seats with leg room on the plane.....does that put me in that bracket? Wink

That's weird, the seven figure people I know are probably the nicest, most generous, and hard working people I know. I have no clue of their political persuasion, but my money is on conservative.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to be clear, there’s no such thing as an “iherritance tax”. There’s also no such thing as a “death tax”. Further, there’s no such thing as a “triple tax”. These are all bits of propaganda foisted on us by various conservatives to advance their various agendas.
There is such a thing as an “Estate tax”, which only applies to estates that are valued $5,450,000 and above (2016) and are being transferred to individuals. They are taxed at a rate of 40% . The intent of the tax is to prevent the formation of estates that could be transferred in perpetuity from heir to heir without ever being taxed. If you are opposed to the estate tax, then by definition, you are in favor of the creation of a permanent aristocracy in this county. That being the case, and that an aristocratic class is in opposition to our basic founding beliefs as Americans, I would suggest that by extension, you may be un-American.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rigitrite wrote:
Just to be clear, there’s no such thing as an “iherritance tax”. There’s also no such thing as a “death tax”. Further, there’s no such thing as a “triple tax”. These are all bits of propaganda foisted on us by various conservatives to advance their various agendas.
There is such a thing as an “Estate tax”, which only applies to estates that are valued $5,450,000 and above (2016) and are being transferred to individuals. They are taxed at a rate of 40% . The intent of the tax is to prevent the formation of estates that could be transferred in perpetuity from heir to heir without ever being taxed. If you are opposed to the estate tax, then by definition, you are in favor of the creation of a permanent aristocracy in this county. That being the case, and that an aristocratic class is in opposition to our basic founding beliefs as Americans, I would suggest that by extension, you may be un-American.

I have no time to debate this, but because I presume you're an estate tax lawyer, I'd genuinely like to hear your refutation of these arguments:
• The money put into those estates has already been taxed at least once.
• If most of the estate's value is appreciation, is that not taxed via property taxes midstream?
• The tax becomes due only because and when the owner dies. The term "death tax" is thus appropriate even if it isn't PC.
• What on earth difference does it make whether the estate is worth $100,000 or ten trillion? The distinction is clearly due to wealth redistribution, aka greed, not principle.
• That $5.5M threshold is strictly a demographic cutoff designed so its targets can't muster enough support to raise it further and skate under it.
• How is such onerous double or triple taxation fair to the people whose inheritance bankrupts them because they can't pay the taxes?
• And I don't even have the time to actually do any new research on this (I saw your post only because it's the first one in many days to sneak past my filters, and responded only because you imply you have new information counter to my understanding); I suspect it would reveal many such pages of legitimate opposition to the death tax, by any name.

Sorry, but unless you're that estate lawyer, I'm not convinced this is any more than the usual left wing excuse for fleecing the filthy rich.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rigitrite wrote:
Just to be clear, there’s no such thing as an “iherritance tax”. There’s also no such thing as a “death tax”. Further, there’s no such thing as a “triple tax”. These are all bits of propaganda foisted on us by various conservatives to advance their various agendas.
There is such a thing as an “Estate tax”, which only applies to estates that are valued $5,450,000 and above (2016) and are being transferred to individuals. They are taxed at a rate of 40% . The intent of the tax is to prevent the formation of estates that could be transferred in perpetuity from heir to heir without ever being taxed. If you are opposed to the estate tax, then by definition, you are in favor of the creation of a permanent aristocracy in this county. That being the case, and that an aristocratic class is in opposition to our basic founding beliefs as Americans, I would suggest that by extension, you may be un-American.


So you're okay with taxing wealth that has been accumulated after initial taxes were already paid? Because family's should not be able to pass on their life savings and estates to future generations? Un-American would allowing a greedy government to rape your family of its hard work and wealth.
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