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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
It appears Christopher Steele, author of the bogus “Trump dossier,” lied to the FBI about his media contacts. Also, “after* the FBI knew Steele was the source of the media stories, they LIED to the FISA court about this & *still* proffered the Isikoff article to the Court.”

The memo, addressed to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, shows more about the FBI’s relationship to Christopher Steele, the ex-Brit spy whose name is attached to the now-infamous anti-Trump dossier.

One memorandum by Mr. Steele that was not published by Buzzfeed is dated October 19, 2016. The report alleges [redacted], as well as [redacted]. Mr. Steele’s memorandum states that his company ‘received his report from [redacted] US State Department,’ that the report was the second in a series, and that the report was information that came from a foreign sub-source who ‘is in touch with [redacted], a contact of [redacted], a friend of the Clintons, who passed it to [redacted].

“It is troubling enough that the Clinton Campaign funded Mr. Steele’s work, but these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility,” Grassley and Graham wrote.


Hiring a MI6 agent who is an expert on Russia about trump when much of his crimes on money laundering is under scrutiny is a must do.

you a idiot would go ask Putin if he had anything on Trump is how stupid you are. Ya hiring the worlds most knowledgeable secret agent on democracies worst enemy russia is not wise. You would hire who? Ghost Busters.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not exactly a nothing burger, and shows what a liar Nunes is.

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Jonathan M. Winer, a Washington lawyer and consultant, is a former U.S. deputy assistant secretary of state for international law enforcement and former special envoy for Libya.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) announced last week that the next phase of his investigation of the events that led to the appointment of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III will focus on the State Department. His apparent area of interest is my relationship with former British intelligence professional Christopher Steele and my role in material that Steele ultimately shared with the FBI.

Here’s the real story: In the 1990s, I was the senior official at the State Department responsible for combating transnational organized crime. I became deeply concerned about Russian state operatives compromising and corrupting foreign political figures and businessmen from other countries. Their modus operandi was sexual entrapment and entrapment in too-good-to-be-true business deals.

After 1999, I left the State Department and developed a legal and consulting practice that often involved Russian matters. In 2009, I met and became friends with Steele, after he retired from British government service focusing on Russia. Steele was providing business intelligence on the same kinds of issues I worked on at the time.

In 2013, I returned to the State Department at the request of Secretary of State John F. Kerry, whom I had previously served as Senate counsel. Over the years, Steele and I had discussed many matters relating to Russia. He asked me whether the State Department would like copies of new information as he developed it. I contacted Victoria Nuland, a career diplomat who was then assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, and shared with her several of Steele’s reports. She told me they were useful and asked me to continue to send them. Over the next two years, I shared more than 100 of Steele’s reports with the Russia experts at the State Department, who continued to find them useful. None of the reports related to U.S. politics or domestic U.S. matters, and the reports constituted a very small portion of the data set reviewed by State Department experts trying to make sense of events in Russia.

In the summer of 2016, Steele told me that he had learned of disturbing information regarding possible ties between Donald Trump, his campaign and senior Russian officials. He did not provide details but made clear the information involved “active measures,” a Soviet intelligence term for propaganda and related activities to influence events in other countries.

In September 2016, Steele and I met in Washington and discussed the information now known as the “dossier.” Steele’s sources suggested that the Kremlin not only had been behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign but also had compromised Trump and developed ties with his associates and campaign.

I was allowed to review, but not to keep, a copy of these reports to enable me to alert the State Department. I prepared a two-page summary and shared it with Nuland, who indicated that, like me, she felt that the secretary of state needed to be made aware of this material.

In late September, I spoke with an old friend, Sidney Blumenthal, whom I met 30 years ago when I was investigating the Iran-contra affair for then-Sen. Kerry and Blumenthal was a reporter at The Post. At the time, Russian hacking was at the front and center in the 2016 presidential campaign. The emails of Blumenthal, who had a long association with Bill and Hillary Clinton, had been hacked in 2013 through a Russian server.

While talking about that hacking, Blumenthal and I discussed Steele’s reports. He showed me notes gathered by a journalist I did not know, Cody Shearer, that alleged the Russians had compromising information on Trump of a sexual and financial nature.

What struck me was how some of the material echoed Steele’s but appeared to involve different sources.

On my own, I shared a copy of these notes with Steele, to ask for his professional reaction. He told me it was potentially “collateral” information. I asked him what that meant. He said that it was similar but separate from the information he had gathered from his sources. I agreed to let him keep a copy of the Shearer notes.

Given that I had not worked with Shearer and knew that he was not a professional intelligence officer, I did not mention or share his notes with anyone at the State Department. I did not expect them to be shared with anyone in the U.S. government.

But I learned later that Steele did share them — with the FBI, after the FBI asked him to provide everything he had on allegations relating to Trump, his campaign and Russian interference in U.S. elections.

I am in no position to judge the accuracy of the information generated by Steele or Shearer. But I was alarmed at Russia’s role in the 2016 election, and so were U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials. I believe all Americans should be alarmed — and united in the search for the truth about Russian interference in our democracy, and whether Trump and his campaign had any part in it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Not exactly a nothing burger, and shows what a liar Nunes is.




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In the 1990s, I was the senior official at the State Department responsible for combating transnational organized crime. I became deeply concerned about Russian state operatives compromising and corrupting foreign political figures and businessmen from other countries. Their modus operandi was sexual entrapment and entrapment in too-good-to-be-true business deals.


from your link, no trump could never be compromised by sexual entrapment or too-good-too-be-true business deals....

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The indictment can be found here: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

For years, if not decades, the righties have been using voter ID tactics to try to reduce voting by minorities and the poor, justifying their efforts by calling for the sanctity of elections. The same wing nuts now pooh-pooh these efforts, funded by oligarch’s who were paying inflated prices for trump proprerty, echoing Trump’s claim that he has been somehow exonerated. The sanctity of elections has somehow disappeared as an issue because Trump hasn’t been indicted—yet. Of course Trump also claimed there were no contacts with his campaign—and we now know of at least 30. Follow the money. This was about money laundering and relief of sanctions against Russia so that bag men for Russian oligarch’s and oil men could get paid. If you believe that Trump and his family weren’t paid—and compromised—watch out for the tooth fairy tonight.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and trump keeps giving free handouts to russia...

the first was the fine that Obama secured in the hundreds of millions that at attorney was in the meeting for. Remember when the trump people lied and said she was there for the russian babies at the meeting....

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sanders silent on claim that Russians backed him in 2016

Russia funded anti Trump rallies
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Sanders silent on claim that Russians backed him in 2016

Russia funded anti Trump rallies


Barbie misses the point again. The allegations are not aimed solely at groups that supported Trump. The Russians were trying to sew discourse through the election process through many channels, pro-Trump, anti-Trump, pro-Clinton, anti-Clinton. etc. etc.
The real question to be answered is which groups met with the Russians and what did they want to accomplish?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wsurfer wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Sanders silent on claim that Russians backed him in 2016

Russia funded anti Trump rallies


Barbie misses the point again. The allegations are not aimed solely at groups that supported Trump. The Russians were trying to sew discourse through the election process through many channels, pro-Trump, anti-Trump, pro-Clinton, anti-Clinton. etc. etc.
The real question to be answered is which groups met with the Russians and what did they want to accomplish?


The only certain crime of collusion and working with a foreign entity to sway our election would be Steele and the DNC. That is a fact!!!!

Careful what you wish for old fool. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
wsurfer wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Sanders silent on claim that Russians backed him in 2016

Russia funded anti Trump rallies


Barbie misses the point again. The allegations are not aimed solely at groups that supported Trump. The Russians were trying to sew discourse through the election process through many channels, pro-Trump, anti-Trump, pro-Clinton, anti-Clinton. etc. etc.
The real question to be answered is which groups met with the Russians and what did they want to accomplish?


The only certain crime of collusion and working with a foreign entity to sway our election would be Steele and the DNC. That is a fact!!!!


Careful what you wish for old fool. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does this comfortably figure into the collusion theory?
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Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Syria Attack
By IVAN NECHEPURENKO, NEIL MacFARQUHAR and THOMAS GIBBONS-NEFFFEB. 13, 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/world/europe/russia-syria-dead.html
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