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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not that mad Matty appreciates facts--only Fox spin: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-two-worlds-20170410-story.html


That Fox spin is going to land Rice in front of a congressional committee, then she can lie an incriminate herself.
Amazing what one little tweet can do, wouldn't you agree?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not surprised that Matty didn't bother to read the link. Attention span too short, or paranoia too great?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the brother of sec of education... billionaire trust fund kid. again this right wing piece of human filth passed on pizzagage lies in the media as well as Hillary was going to a island of where she abued and raped children.

why were so many of the trump people now a minimum of 5 did not disclose their meetings with russia... again none came forward even after the first was caught.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/erik-prince-acted-as-trump-envoy-in-russian-meetings-report-924994115637

Erik Prince acted as Trump envoy in Russian meetings: report

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Rachel Maddow shares reports that Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater and brother of Donald Trump Education Secretary Betsy DeVos met with Russian officials while working with the Trump team.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/18/1622036/-Blackwater-boss-Erik-Prince-helped-hack-the-election-for-Trump

Blackwater boss Erik Prince helped hack the election for Trump

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Former Blackwater CEO Erik Prince recently got back in the news when it emerged that he’s serving as an informal adviser to Trump. That’s not the only time he’s offered his services to the Donald. He played a key role in a conspiracy by rogue FBI agents to throw the election to Trump.

Late last night, HuffPo columnist Seth Abramson discovered that Prince gave a rather interesting interview to Breitbart News Daily on November 4—less than 24 hours before Comey announced there was no there there in the new emails. Prince claimed that the FBI’s hand was forced by hopping mad NYPD detectives investigating Anthony Weiner. Supposedly, they found “State Department emails” and evidence of a trove of criminal activity involving the Clintons and other prominent Democrats. Click over to my piece at Liberal America to hear it—but be sure you’re sitting down. After all, this is Breitbart—or rather, Trumpbart—we’re talking about.

According to this narrative the NYPD gave the FBI an ultimatum—reopen the investigation, or we will hold a press conference to announce a ton of arrests. Supposedly, this “pushed the FBI off their chairs,” prompting Comey’s now-infamous letter.

Two big problems. First, we know that the warrant contained no such thing. Rather, its sole “probable cause” was a possible email exchange between Hillary and Huma Abedin. On that basis, a number of legal experts have condemned it as hackery at best and a Fourth Amendment violation at worst.

More seriously, Prince openly admitted that he knew about the emails before Comey did. For those of you keeping score, that makes THREE close confidants to Trump who knew about the emails in the three weeks between when they were found and when Comey was finally notified. The other two? Rudy Giuliani and Jim Kallstrom, both of whom were in contact with active agents during the investigation.

And all three of them knew damn well what they were doing when they made those leaks. Remember, Giuliani is a former U. S. Attorney, and before then headed the DOJ’s criminal division. Kallstrom is the former head of the FBI in New York City. Prince was a major government contractor during his tenure at Blackwater. If this isn’t evidence that this election was tainted by criminal misconduct, what is?

Abramson muses that Giuliani revealed his contacts with FBI agents on orders from Trump, while Prince did so on orders from either Steve Bannon or Trump. I haven’t seen anything to suggest--yet—that Trump was directly involved. After all, you’re talking about a couple of guys who are known to be cowboys. The fact that Prince went on Breitbart, though, makes you wonder if Bannon was in some way involved.

He also muses that Prince’s adviser role, as well as the choice of his sister, Betsy DeVos, as Education Secretary, are rewards for a job (criminally) well done. That’s a bit of a stretch. It’s very likely that DeVos is part of the massive debt Trump owes to the fundies, while Prince simply bought his post.

What is clear beyond any doubt is that, at the very least, Trump fostered an environment in which this was even remotely acceptable. Ironic, since Chris Christie lost out on the VP slot under similar circumstances. What is also clear is that Abramson wasn’t kidding when he called this potentially worse than Watergate.



https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1609785

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Trump advisor Erik Prince knows the contents of the 650,000 Weiner emails, he called Hillary a "great evil" back in Nov. Trump's inner circle all know. (pizzagate)
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I thought this was a really important puzzle piece that confirms pizzagate is about to blow wide open. Erik Prince is no saint - he's the Blackwater founder and a mercenary. But he recognizes evil and calls it by its true name, so I would argue he is on our side.

Breitbart Nov 4th 2016: Erik Prince: NYPD Ready to Make Arrests in Anthony Weiner Case

Key quote:

“Because of Weinergate and the sexting scandal, the NYPD started investigating it. Through a subpoena, through a warrant, they searched his laptop, and sure enough, found those 650,000 emails. They found way more stuff than just more information pertaining to the inappropriate sexting the guy was doing,” Prince claimed.

“This kind of evil, this kind of true dirt on Hillary Clinton – look, you don’t have to make any judgments. Just release the emails,” he urged. “Just dump them. Let them out there. Let people see the light of truth.”

January 17th 2017, The Intercept - "Notorious Mercenary Erik Prince advises Trump from the shadows"

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"Prince has a close relationship with Breitbart News and Steve Bannon, Trump’s senior counselor and chief strategist" "On election night, Prince’s latest wife, Stacy DeLuke, posted pictures from inside Trump’s campaign headquarters as Donald Trump and Mike Pence watched the returns come in, including a close shot of Pence and Trump with their families"

There is now overwhelming evidence that Trump has surrounded himself with people that know all about it. He has made a deal with Comey, he has secured the support of military and law enforcement agencies. He has been waiting for the right moment. The front page of today's WSJ reports that prosecutors are weighing up whether or not to charge Weiner with child pornography. He is supposedly asking for a plea deal.

That's Trump's first pawn. I don't think anyone quite knows what happens next.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone in government met with Russia! And?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Everyone in government met with Russia! And?


I guess above your paygrade, during campaigns they are not meeting with foreign governments because they are trying to win a domestic election. From the past it is unheard of to be getting/meeting the country that is the USA greatest enemy and threat to world democracy.

Again Putin's public dissenters die.


seems way past your paygrade my pizzagatee supporter. Anyone who supports people that believe that hillary was involved in child trafficking is really one sick individual and should be sent toMoscow where belong.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, if we just bought most of Russia's oil, I think there'd be a lot more "diplomacy" between our 2 countries. ;*) It'd certainly make Russia think twice about supporting Iran ;*) Then we could sell our oil to the Chinese

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
You know, if we just bought most of Russia's oil, I think there'd be a lot more "diplomacy" between our 2 countries. ;*) It'd certainly make Russia think twice about supporting Iran ;*) Then we could sell our oil to the Chinese

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-Craig


tried that.. did not happen, they became monsters as their economy exploded and invaded Georgia and then Ukraine.

The issue is Putin is the worlds richest man and the worlds most powerful. He does not want anyone taking that away from him and he knows democracies are his only threat. If there was ever a vote that he lost power he knows he is going to be executed for theft and crimes.

Jut as we have one poster on this forum who claims he was a top exec at a top oil company. He could, by all means, be tried for crimes against humanity in the Hauge court someday because of lies by the company and hiding research. He has a vested interest in trolling this forum for his life. and Putin a much more pronounced one.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
You know, if we just bought most of Russia's oil, I think there'd be a lot more "diplomacy" between our 2 countries. ;*) It'd certainly make Russia think twice about supporting Iran ;*) Then we could sell our oil to the Chinese

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Trump is destroying Russia. Increased oil production, military forces in the Baltics, Syria and sanctions are killing their economy.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trump lies as usual...

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/report-shows-high-level-russian-role-in-2016-election-meddling-926038595600?cid=eml_mda_20170421

Report shows Russian govt role in US election

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Rachel Maddow relays a Reuters report that a Vladimir Putin-linked think tank drafted strategy papers for Russian interference in the 2016 US election. Donald Trump has failed to deliver on his promise to deliver a report on Russia's 2016 cyber attack.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
cgoudie1 wrote:
You know, if we just bought most of Russia's oil, I think there'd be a lot more "diplomacy" between our 2 countries. ;*) It'd certainly make Russia think twice about supporting Iran ;*) Then we could sell our oil to the Chinese

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-Craig


Trump is destroying Russia. Increased oil production, military forces in the Baltics, Syria and sanctions are killing their economy.


please back up your commy propaganda.


Ya Exxon just asked the government a waiver for helping russia via/to ex exxon President Tillerson.

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