GoodEnough New battery

[Goodwind]

Just came across an article on new battery technology breakthrough. This new battery is supposed to be cheap, safe, high energy density, fast charging and long lasting. If true, it could change the car industry for good. Good enough for me.

https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces New Technology for Fast-Charging, Noncombustible Batteries.

AUSTIN, Texas — A team of engineers led by 94-year-old John Goodenough, professor in the Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas at Austin and co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery, has developed the first all-solid-state battery cells that could lead to safer, faster-charging, longer-lasting rechargeable batteries for handheld mobile devices, electric cars and stationary energy storage.

“Cost, safety, energy density, rates of charge and discharge and cycle life are critical for battery-driven cars to be more widely adopted. We believe our discovery solves many of the problems that are inherent in today’s batteries,” Goodenough said.

The researchers demonstrated that their new battery cells have at least three times as much energy density as today’s lithium-ion batteries. A battery cell’s energy density gives an electric vehicle its driving range, so a higher energy density means that a car can drive more miles between charges. The UT Austin battery formulation also allows for a greater number of charging and discharging cycles, which equates to longer-lasting batteries, as well as a faster rate of recharge (minutes rather than hours).

[GURGLETROUSERS]

For town cars Goodwind, it could cut traffic pollution just fine, especially in traffic choked cities, but...

I sometimes stand on an over a busy motorway bridge (brief bike ride rest, to munch a banana) and watch the non-stop, nose to tail, lorry traffic thundering past, while noting their lettering and where they are coming from. (And likely heading to.) The point is, no super battery ever likely to be invented could power these monster 40 tonners from one end of the country (many foreign trucks delivering essential imports) to the other. Internal combustion engines will remain essential if we wish to remain a manufacturing/trading nation.

Secondly, no battery powered car will likely ever be able to have the capacity (and convenience) of a small 'super mini' petrol engine car, which, in freezing mid-winter raining weather can waft us effortlessly at speed, with heater, lights, wipers all whirring away, for as far as a tank of petrol (400 miles/ two minutes to refill at pump) can carry us. (Most of us can't afford to run two cars, so one must do all we ever require of it.)

Thirdly, why do electric car enthusiasts always ignore the elephant in the room, recharging! No matter how super a battery, eventually it will require the imput of as much energy as it used.. This imput can only come from the mains electricity supply. If millions of motorists suddenly needed this supply, how, or what fuel, would generate it?? More super batteries perhaps ? (Sorry, couldn't resist!! )

[swchandler]

G.T., there's always the solution of a hybrid high performance battery/gasoline powered vehicle. I recently had a first generation Chevy Volt loaner while getting my van repaired that offered both battery and gasoline performance. It seems that that kind of flexibility into the future will satisfy a broad range of customers and their needs, especially considering significantly improved battery performance.

[real-human]

[GURGLETROUSERS]

Can't sleep,so grumpy. Must be all these traffic fumes! (Actually, it's a sinus issue -surfing yesterday.)

Even if we take the point that heavily loaded long distance lorries, complete with heaters, lights, wipers, and all the electrical gadgets they use (cars also) could be operated by super battery power alone, it would NOT answer the main issue. What fuel will generate and replace the electrical power they have used, when recharging is necessary?

If all the millions of vehicles now on the roads needed to be recharged, it would require a massive building program of new power stations. What fuel would power them? (Please don't suggest just windmills!)

All battery power will do is to remove the pollution from vehicle exhaust pipes, to a central power generating plant. Problem NOT solved!

Unless there is some point I'm unable to see!

[real-human]

[GURGLETROUSERS]

Well I'll agree with you there. (Nuclear.)

Not sure that the Swedish plan is realistic. Plans, and reality, often collide. However, time will show, though by 2040, I won't be worrying about clouds over my shoulder (in our well watered land, as My First Atlas at Primary School called our little island), nor will I be sitting on a warm fluffy cloud plucking a harp!

But at least, I won't have sinus issues from too much surfing!!!!

[mrgybe]

[real-human]

[mac]

Subsidies to nuclear power are even greater than for fossil fuels. But understanding is not required to shoot from the hip.

Subsidies for development of nuclear technology are an order of magnitude higher than those for renewables. and mrgybe has consistently overstated the health risk associated with batteries. He either doesn't understand health risk assessments and exponents, or he is in the bag for fossil fuels. Or both.

https://thinkprogress.org/how-much-of-a-subsidy-is-the-price-anderson-nuclear-industry-indemnity-act-391693197ab#.tqnfl3k1n