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mac
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One of a continuing series of examples of how mrgybe spins his sources. He cites a credible source about the failures of North Korean policy, including the inattention of the Obama administration, and then elides this about Trump--the subject of my comment:
| Quote: | "Trump is right that strategic patience failed," she noted. But the problem is, added Davenport, that beyond criticizing his predecessor, the current president has not done anything to improve the situation and offer a better alternative.
"If anything, the Trump administration has repackaged strategic patience under a different title - 'maximum pressure and engagement' - and paired that with irresponsible threats of military force," said Davenport. "Their approach is not any better and if anything is more dangerous."
"When you get down into it, I don't see a real measurable difference in terms of policy," said Arrington. "Maybe there is more rhetoric and tweeting and unclear signalling and mixed messages going on, but ultimately it looks a lot like what we were seeing from the Obama administration. Maybe strategic patience is still alive." |
When you don't have solutions, just attack. |
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mrgybe
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Not smart enough to figure out that this is exactly the point I was making. Twelve pages of ranting about how stupid Trump has been in his dealings with NK............yet the experts conclude that it is little different than the policy employed by his deity, Obama. |
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nw30
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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This is one of the most important forums in the world, which is visited by millions everyday, just to see what is being politically discussed here. It is taken to heart by everyone, there is no other place where you can find a better group of experts.
With that being said, it is extremely important to both mac and Dean that they are never challenged and always proven to be correct, no matter what, their mental health depends on it. So much so in fact, that I have always considered it clinical. We must always keep that in mind, the integrity of this place depends on it, as well as the future of America. |
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mac
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| mrgybe wrote: | | Not smart enough to figure out that this is exactly the point I was making. Twelve pages of ranting about how stupid Trump has been in his dealings with NK............yet the experts conclude that it is little different than the policy employed by his deity, Obama. |
Not smart enough to figure out that there are no ready solutions to the problems of North Korea, no matter the president. Not smart enough to figure out that when you think your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Or as the British said in Baghdad--Yeehah is not a foreign policy strategy. |
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real-human
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | An EMP attack would render ALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES USELESS....for good. Most people would panic without their cell phones. Can you imagine no cars, no electricity, no water, no food deliveries? 90% is a serious estimate of the death toll after an EMP attack.
Just Google EMP attack 90% death toll |
you are such a idiot....
It was pulled from a fiction novel... and went nuclear....
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a25883/north-korea-cant-kill-ninety-percent-of-americans/
| Quote: | Bartlett was so spooked by this novel that after he left Congress he moved into the woods and became a survivalist, where he spends his days "cutting logs, tending gardens and painting walls." And just to be clear, the claim that North Korea could kill 90 percent of the American people was directly pulled from a science fiction novel.
There are even more problems with this claim. Nobody knows how large of a nuclear weapon it would take to destroy the U.S. electrical grid. Five megatons? Five hundred megatons? A gigaton? |
Now I correctly noted it is possible by parking nuke launch capable subs and firing these at at the major cities as noted. And I correctly noted since they have not done any above ground tests they do not really know what size is needed, but I am betting the size of their previous tests would do it over each city. Hense from Bush years where they started the escalation to defend themselves from the Bush doctrine of attack they were probably capable of destroying the USA.
again these can be located 14 miles off the Canada USA border, and Mexico USA border right now. One little mistake by the USA and those subs I am sure have orders to destroy the USA as it stands if NK can not reply to them.
And yes if 15-26 over major cities the USA as a country is done with. the rest of the world is just fine if the USA is gone from this attack, canada may be the exception as a destroyed country because of their border cities to close to major USA cities, Mexico border cities will also be ruined..
Ironic, Mexico is the ones that will need the wall to keep the americans from raping and pillaging Mexicos natural resources. That must make you right wingers happy.
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MalibuGuru
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| Mexico is already ruined |
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real-human
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | | Mexico is already ruined |
you wonder why NK hates the ugly americans in your hating image, as well as the rest of the world calls you the ugly american... you are truly the scum of the earth.
you pedophile pussy grabbing rapist KKK Nazi racist supporter...
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real-human
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BTW Mexico just kicked out the N K ambassidor out of their country for their last test.
The NK ambassador said something like Mexico has nothing to do with the American issue in his complaint to Mexico, ie so why kick him out as he was being kicked out.
He probably wanted to stay in Mexico because of how much safer it is there as the US is about to be erased from history books except as a footnote.
Again one little even unintended mistake and the USA is over as a nation.
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| real-human wrote: | | MalibuGuru wrote: | | Mexico is already ruined |
you wonder why NK hates the ugly americans in your hating image, as well as the rest of the world calls you the ugly american... you are truly the scum of the earth.
you pedophile pussy grabbing rapist KKK Nazi racist supporter... |
Uhh, then why do they all want to live here? And if it's so nice, why can't they just go home?
PS, you're a schizophrenic mouse dude. |
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real-human
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | | real-human wrote: | | MalibuGuru wrote: | | Mexico is already ruined |
you wonder why NK hates the ugly americans in your hating image, as well as the rest of the world calls you the ugly american... you are truly the scum of the earth.
you pedophile pussy grabbing rapist KKK Nazi racist supporter... |
Uhh, then why do they all want to live here? And if it's so nice, why can't they just go home?
PS, you're a schizophrenic mouse dude. |
I bet they would rather live in Germany you little Nazi..... you really are so stupid....
as far as who destroyed detroit, try the trust fund kids that sucked the money out and ran.... they did not re-invest in state of the art manufacturing.... that is why VW, Porsche, Mercedes with higher labor are doing fine. you really are such a low level thinker...
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