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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulf. wrote:
it is surmised that LeeD and zirtaeb are the same person.. how strange.

He's made no secret of that. It depends on which computer or account he's using.
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shreddbob



Joined: 31 Mar 1987
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpeter wrote:
Evaporation of water cools you off.


And...when you're immersed you heat up the layer of water in your suit, and that water keeps you warmer. For windsurf you don't have the water layer, you have the evaporation, and if you do fall in you have to suddenly heat up a big slug of water entering wetsuit. That's why drysuit necessary under 50.

And if you've recently returned from Maui you need 2 drysuits Shocked
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PeconicPuffin



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a drysuit: 37 degrees in full sun, 40 overcast. Water temp 33+. It's enjoyable if you have your waterstarts wired and are 50% + on jibes. Frequent breaks, shorter overall sessions, but good times are to be had. One of the regular guys I sail with does this in a 6/5/4 by the way.
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ramps



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you suffer a breakdown or other emergency and have to spend an hour or more in the water? A friend of mine perished because he had some kind of mishap that kept him from getting out of the cold water.
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boardsurfr



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ramps wrote:
What if you suffer a breakdown or other emergency and have to spend an hour or more in the water? A friend of mine perished because he had some kind of mishap that kept him from getting out of the cold water.

That's an important point. I always dress warm enough to make it to shore, even if I'd have to swim. I always sail in safe (usually onshore) conditions when it's cold, but there is often nobody on the water, or just one other windsurfer on small gear. Hypothermia can set in very quickly if underdressed. Some of the first effects are lack of coordination and "confusion and poor decision making". I have seen "chilled" windsurfers behave quite irrationally, which was only funny because they were on land already.
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cgoudie1



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The loss of a friend is always harsh, cold water is dangerous, no question.
You can live in fear, or you can prudently run the risk. Personally, what
drives me off the water is not fear of death, but the pain of cold hands and face (plus I have a Winter diversion that I love as well). I've got nice
drysuits and I use them when it works for me. I tend to dress for a
long swim, but I think the last time I cogitated the possibility of not
returning while dressing on the beach was, well, like never.

-Craig

p.s. I had an encounter with cold air and water which went bad during a
waterski trip, good fortune (or providence) was with me that day, or I
might not be typing now.


ramps wrote:
What if you suffer a breakdown or other emergency and have to spend an hour or more in the water? A friend of mine perished because he had some kind of mishap that kept him from getting out of the cold water.
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braden



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In April 2016 I was sailing, the wind dropped and I had to swim myself and the board back to shore, took about 10 min. Wearing drysuit. Some citizen thought I had been hit by a barge and called rescue, they were waiting for me. They put me in their vehicle to warm up, said my temperature was 93F! I was surprised because I'd been working hard. I didn't feel cold (till later), wasn't shivering.
Anyway, at 72, decided to forego further cold-water sailing.
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dllee



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your board is narrower than 72 cm's in width, just sit atop your board, mast straight out towards the nose of the board, frog kick with both legs, and you go 1.5 feet every kick.
Doing the math, 300 kicks get's you easily 200 yards. 300 kicks is a lot, but you're sitting dry atop your board.
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shreddbob



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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zirtaeb wrote:
If your board is narrower than 72 cm's in width, just sit atop your board, mast straight out towards the nose of the board, frog kick with both legs


So you're saying propel the board tail first?
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