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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Of course, more downhaul allows the sail to twist and handle higher winds.
Less downhaul makes for a fuller sail for winds that are too light for the original design of the sail.
Downhaul is set from personal turning experience, preferences, sail design, and amount of wind availible.
Most slalom racer's use maximum downhaul all the time, so in 20 mph winds, use a 7.8 sail typically.
In the same winds, a lot of freestyle sailors would use a 4.8 sail, planing almost as easily, with almost no wrinkle in the upper leech of the sail.
Pick your poison, take your chances, and hope it works out. |
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d0uglass
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 1286 Location: Bonita Springs, Florida
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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rtz, I'll ditto what dennis_c said, which is what I said about this model of sail a while back.
Regarding your pictures, the sail was definitely under-downhauled in the first set of pictures. But in the second set of pictures it looked like it had plenty of downhaul, perhaps even a bit too much. The ideal downhaul setting may be intermediate between the two sets of pictures that you showed, but closer to the second set of pictures. The Chinook Powerglide needs enough downhaul to pull out the wrinkles and allow smooth batten rotation, but unlike a higher performance sail it's not meant to be super floppy at the trailing edge. _________________ James' Blog: Windsurfing Equipment Size Calculator
http://jimbodouglass.blogspot.com/2010/11/updated-windsurf-calculator-online.html |
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rtz
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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A stiffer mast would be interesting to see what effects it would have on the sail. It's interesting that http://www.powerexmasts.com/ has no U.S. distribution. Surprised no shop picks them up.
Looking for a free ride sail; 4.7 or smaller for when the little Chinook is out of it's wind range.
Would a wave sail be easy to handle and well mannered?
Looking to buy new. |
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grantmac017
Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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But something used and spend the money on a good mast. Those epoxy ones are already the weak link. |
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Arrgh
Joined: 05 May 1998 Posts: 864 Location: Rio
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Agree completely. Masts, especially rdm's, last a long time. Buy a good 90% carbon constant curve. With a good mast, your Powerglide will probably be at least as good as a better sail with a crappy mast. I wouldn't necessarily downsize the sail. A better sail of the same size will be much more stable. |
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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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If your sail is luffing, you need to bear off or sheet in. |
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cgoudie1
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 2599 Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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+1
It seems like technique to me also.
-Craig
westender wrote: | If your sail is luffing, you need to bear off or sheet in. |
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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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grantmac017
Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 11:20 am Post subject: |
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westender wrote: | If your sail is luffing, you need to bear off or sheet in. |
He's not using a harness. Unlikely to be able to control a powered up sail. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: A lot of downhaul |
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rtz wrote: | In extreme gusts the trailing edge of the sail between the top two battens sounded like a machine gun as it flapped back and forth uncontrollably. |
That machine gunning can destroy a sail very quickly. Find the source (e.g., too much downhaul, not enough outhaul, wrong mast bend or stiffness) and remedy it.
rtz wrote: | want it to be a solid rigid surface. |
No, you don't. The aft half or third of a sail (other than a Sailworks Hucker tuned for maximum jump height) should be free to flex, as it is the exhaust system, not the engine. [/quote] |
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