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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe you haven't been picking up on my past comments here about illegal immigrants, but I've quite outspoken about what needs to be done to address our problem. It's all about going after the businesses and individual Americans that hire illegal aliens. With heavy financial penalties and stiff criminal consequences for offenders, our illegal immigration problem would quickly vanish. With no available work, illegals aliens would quickly deport themselves at little cost.
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I agree with that 100%, but maybe it is you that haven't noticed that it is already illegal, how much more illegal do you need it to be? Instant death to the employer if caught? Is that what you think immigration reform needs to be? (satire, but still)
Immigration reform is a straw man, always has been, just enforce the fucking laws! And if that means strengthening the border, then so be it.
It really isn't rocket science. |
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14892 Location: on earth
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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nw30 wrote: | swchandler wrote: |
Maybe you haven't been picking up on my past comments here about illegal immigrants, but I've quite outspoken about what needs to be done to address our problem. It's all about going after the businesses and individual Americans that hire illegal aliens. With heavy financial penalties and stiff criminal consequences for offenders, our illegal immigration problem would quickly vanish. With no available work, illegals aliens would quickly deport themselves at little cost.
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I agree with that 100%, but maybe it is you that haven't noticed that it is already illegal, how much more illegal do you need it to be? Instant death to the employer if caught? Is that what you think immigration reform needs to be? (satire, but still)
Immigration reform is a straw man, always has been, just enforce the fucking laws! And if that means strengthening the border, then so be it.
It really isn't rocket science. |
Obama went after the employers, but it is a slap in the hand.
again right wing will not allow stiff penalties to repeat employer offenders. I am in favor of on the third conviction, it should be mandatory jail time for hiring a non-qualified person. First 2 convictions should be misdemeanors. This should be a felony conviction on the 3rd and 90 days first conviction and repeated after out 5 years minimum. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Why not hire more ICE agents, instead of funding a stupid wall? That way we can fully focus on corporations, businesses and individuals that hire illegal immigrants.
Like it or not, immigration reform needs to happen. Too many illegal immigrants have been here too long, they've had families, and they've ultimately become an integral part of our economy. It's all about drawing credible line, and then changing the game. |
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mat-ty
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | Why not hire more ICE agents, instead of funding a stupid wall? That way we can fully focus on corporations, businesses and individuals that hire illegal immigrants.
Like it or not, immigration reform needs to happen. Too many illegal immigrants have been here too long, they've had families, and they've ultimately become an integral part of our economy. It's all about drawing credible line, and then changing the game. |
That sounds great for people who want to work, but what about the gang bangers , drug dealers and terrorist that are crossing our border everyday. |
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mat-ty
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14892 Location: on earth
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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mat-ty wrote: | swchandler wrote: | Why not hire more ICE agents, instead of funding a stupid wall? That way we can fully focus on corporations, businesses and individuals that hire illegal immigrants.
Like it or not, immigration reform needs to happen. Too many illegal immigrants have been here too long, they've had families, and they've ultimately become an integral part of our economy. It's all about drawing credible line, and then changing the game. |
That sounds great for people who want to work, but what about the gang bangers , drug dealers and terrorist that are crossing our border everyday. |
yep Trump is noted to be associated with all the forementioned. Know to be with top Mafia dons... Even pictures with one at a boxing match and that guys daughter said trump was a close family friend.
also remember trump is a accused child pedophile too. And he is an entitled pussy grabber/molester. what a role model for right wing sexual perverts. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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San Jose, a sanctuary city, but wait, I guess it depends on who you are, and where you came from. If the homeless were mostly illegal aliens, would they do the same thing? I highly doubt it, politics would trump security and safety, as usual.
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Crews Build Controversial ‘Homeless Wall’ In San Jose
6/19/17
SAN JOSE (KPIX-5) — Caltrans is building a taller, stronger wall in San Jose to stop homeless individuals from returning to an encampment.
Caltrans has repeatedly cleaned up the large encampment under I-280, but the homeless keep returning.
While this new solution has some homeowners pleased, it is generating a lot of anger in the community.
Laura Nunez, who has lived on Macredes Avenue in San Jose most of her life, said everything changed on her street when homeless people began using the rickety chain link fence at the end of the block as a doorway to their encampments along I-280.
“Every time Caltrans would come out and repair it…as soon as they left they cut a hole in it and they just use that…that was their main access point to go in and out,” said Nunez. “We’ve had to live with their garbage. We’ve had to live with drug paraphernalia. The kids haven’t been able come out to play.”
Caltrans and the city heard the neighbors’ complaints and on Monday, workers were out building a taller barrier at the freeway on-ramp and on Macredes Avenue.
Some critics are comparing the new wall to President Trump’s proposed border wall.
Jaime Foberg, the founder of “In Their Shoes” homeless advocacy said, “I think of Trump. And I think how horrible it is that they would keep people out. It really does make me sad.”
The new 8-foot-tall fence is rigid and much stronger, with smaller holes to make it difficult to cut or climb.
Neighbors hope it will make the campers move on, but those who work with the homeless argue the city is giving them nowhere else to go.
Pastor Scott Wagers with Cham Deliverance Ministry said, “Symbolically, I think it sends the wrong message…that a city like San Jose is kind of…positing itself against the homeless.”
But Nunez says, “Take them to your neighborhood and you live the way we’ve been living the past few years, and then you’ll sing a different tune after that.”
They say good fences make good neighbors. It will be interesting to see if that holds true once this one is completed.
Neighbors say there are about 60 people living at the homeless encampment. It’s believed most moved there after the city closed down the huge encampment known as “The Jungle” two years ago.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/06/19/homeless-wall-san-jose/ |
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MalibuGuru
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Ramadan Rage 2017: Deaths Reach 1,627, Marking One of the Bloodiest Islamic Holy Months in Recent Memory |
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14892 Location: on earth
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:29 am Post subject: |
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MalibuGuru wrote: | Ramadan Rage 2017: Deaths Reach 1,627, Marking One of the Bloodiest Islamic Holy Months in Recent Memory |
are you sure, when Bush invaded Iraq with lies that unleased the masses of american haters... how many people died a month in bushes war of lies. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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MalibuGuru
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Supreme Court upholds TRUMP TRAVEL BAN UNANIMOUSLY. |
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