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rollerrider



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I guess a little expensive station wagon would get better mileage.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minivans are hard to beat:
*Easy carries a lot of stuff.
*Easy access to all of that stuff from all sides.
*Easy parking.
*Fits into the garage.
*Drives not that different than a car.

Dodge/Chrysler are hard to beat:
*Stow & Go if multipurpose use involving humans.
*Price among the lowest by a significant amount.
*Mileage is comparable to other vans.

My 2 cents worth...
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gvogelsang



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put two boards on top, and 3 sails, masts and boom inside my MINI Clubman. It works, a little cramped. I also get 40 mpg on the highway, a little less with boards on top.

The new ones are more spacious, and get better gas mileage.
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2012 Clubman, I would only consider it as a windsurf transport as a extreme measure. And almost certainly not on a 2000 mile one way trip, I really wouldn't want to drive it on a 2000 mile trip , period, it's far to harsh a ride.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone use a Honda Element?
Curious what the cargo area will hold

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U2U2U2 wrote:
Anyone use a Honda Element?
Curious what the cargo area will hold


Yes.

I currently have a 2008 Element. It is a good vehicle for solo windsurfing. With the rear seats removed and the front seat laid flat, I can fit 3 boards inside on the passenger side (largest being 117L). A pile of masts are carried down the center between the seats and about 4 or 5 sails with the largest ones in the center on top of the masts and smaller sails behind the passenger seat. Booms get thrown between the boards and the passenger side of the car. I use a tie down strap between the rear grab handle and the rear seat anchors to hold the boards in place in the event of a crash.

There's also a reasonable amount of room in the back, even with boards in the car, to get changed into a wetsuit if needed.

If you need to bring a passenger, the interior space obviously goes way down and you would need to use the roof rack.

They stopped making them in 2012, so used would be your only option.

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carl



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U2U2U2 wrote:
Anyone use a Honda Element?
Curious what the cargo area will hold


U2,
The back seats are removable and with the front passenger seat reclined all the way, 3 short boards can fit inside (and still have side window visibility) with room for other stuff inside. The cargo area behind the front seats is much shorter than a minivan. A 5.5 sail would probably fit behind the front seat but masts would have to go into the front passenger space.
Btw: Honda discontinued the Element probably 5 years ago.

Btw, Btw: I have a 2015 Dodge minivan now and getting 27mpg with straight
road, going about 70-75mph. The new 3.6L engine is much improved and peppy 285 horses too. I don't think the Element gets any better on the HWY, even though it's a smaller vehicle.
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bred2shred



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, the MPG of the Element isn't much different than our Odyssey minivan. Mid-20's at best (it is a brick...or toaster).

Once again, I will say, if maximum gas mileage is your primary goal, get a small windsurfing trailer. It can easily be towed by a small car like a Civic. You will still get decent gas mileage when towing the trailer and for the 90% of the time that you aren't diving for windsurfing, you will have a vehicle with excellent MPG.

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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bred2shred wrote:
U2U2U2 wrote:
Anyone use a Honda Element?
Curious what the cargo area will hold


Yes.

I currently have a 2008 Element. It is a good vehicle for solo windsurfing. With the rear seats removed and the front seat laid flat, I can fit 3 boards inside on the passenger side (largest being 117L). A pile of masts are carried down the center between the seats and about 4 or 5 sails with the largest ones in the center on top of the masts and smaller sails behind the passenger seat. Booms get thrown between the boards and the passenger side of the car. I use a tie down strap between the rear grab handle and the rear seat anchors to hold the boards in place in the event of a crash.

There's also a reasonable amount of room in the back, even with boards in the car, to get changed into a wetsuit if needed.

If you need to bring a passenger, the interior space obviously goes way down and you would need to use the roof rack.

They stopped making them in 2012, so used would be your only option.

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Yes, used back to probably last year.
Honda reliabity , a plus. Mpg not best. Always something.

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carl wrote:
U2U2U2 wrote:
Anyone use a Honda Element?
Curious what the cargo area will hold


U2,
The back seats are removable and with the front passenger seat reclined all the way, 3 short boards can fit inside (and still have side window visibility) with room for other stuff inside. The cargo area behind the front seats is much shorter than a minivan. A 5.5 sail would probably fit behind the front seat but masts would have to go into the front passenger space.
Btw: Honda discontinued the Element probably 5 years ago.

Btw, Btw: I have a 2015 Dodge minivan now and getting 27mpg with straight
road, going about 70-75mph. The new 3.6L engine is much improved and peppy 285 horses too. I don't think the Element gets any better on the HWY, even though it's a smaller vehicle.


It seems 2008 and newer had some problems, Chrysler products. I would think the 4.0 would be best, my 2006 3.6 was lacking, but then it's a mini van, cargo vechile, so.

The 2015 is more than I want to spend, however not too much, I may compromise. The consumer ratings I feel don't actually reflect the reliability of these . The Honda is expensive.

How has the 2015 been in respect to things breaking, how many miles on it ?

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