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real-human



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think of the "speed bumps" that the US put in the way of helping people flee the persecution and murders of the Nazis. I think of the POTUs calling some of those who chanted "Jews will not replace us" asd good people. I think of the US tear gassing children at the border who are fleeing similar violence in Central America.

And then I think about assholes like Matty cheering.

Give us your tired, your poor... and we'll kidnap their children and tear gas the rest.


You do know stupid old man that Obama used tear gas at the border many times...


Ignorant liberal POS

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/26/obama-administration-used-tear-gas-border-once-mon/


MaDD-dy Madd-dy

washington tmes, OMG that was the cult leader rev sun moonie, the cult that use to be in airports panhandling for money so their leader could buy jets and newspapers. The paper never turned a prophet other than their profit in their history when Moon was alive and preaching his hate. .

Bet they got all the details right...

gee were those uses on children? Were they directly ordered by Obama? were we know trump authorized to shoot to kill rules for these children.

till you show me there were orders from Obama to use lethal force and/or gas children, the article is journalistically lacking.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Far from perfect? You must be joking, right?

Why bring up a bunch of questionable nonsense blaming the left? That's simply BS, and thoughtful folks know that. You might not want to admit it, but many recognized conservatives have been quite critical of Donald Trump.

Really, it's all about the facts. Trump's long history of lies and deceit doesn't change the truth.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac said:
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I think of the US tear gassing children at the border who are fleeing similar violence in Central America.

And then I think about assholes like Matty cheering.

Give us your tired, your poor... and we'll kidnap their children and tear gas the rest.

For the "critical thinking" expert, I wonder what alternatives mac would have considered when hundreds are storming the US border to gain illegal access. Maybe ask them politely to stop? Fire hoses, assuming they were available? Just throw the rocks back at the illegals? Let them climb the fence? Tear gas is the norm for riots and remember, parents that choose to drag their children with them amidst turmoil put the children at risk, not the border patrol. Those that use their children as pawns should gain no sympathy.

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President Trump threatened to close the US border as chaos erupted in San Ysidro, California when hundreds of migrants — mostly men — rushed the border to enter the United States illegally.

Border patrol agents shot several rounds of tear gas after migrants threw rocks and bottles at them and tried to illegally cross onto sovereign US territory.

Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) issued a statement saying it refused entry to migrants who tried to breach the border. About 90% of the migrants in the various caravans are young men, but some women with small children are scattered among the group, according to multiple press reports.
Mainstream media outlets trying to paint the weekend border incident as President Trump utilizing tear gas on women and children is plain wrong. While women and children were affected, the use of the tear gas was due to hundreds of men rushing the border and, at one point, even successfully climbing over the first border wall.

And guess what, it seems that the strategy of rushing the border has stopped. The gas worked.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
mac said:
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I think of the US tear gassing children at the border who are fleeing similar violence in Central America.

And then I think about assholes like Matty cheering.

Give us your tired, your poor... and we'll kidnap their children and tear gas the rest.

For the "critical thinking" expert, I wonder what alternatives mac would have considered when hundreds are storming the US border to gain illegal access. Maybe ask them politely to stop? Fire hoses, assuming they were available? Just throw the rocks back at the illegals? Let them climb the fence? Tear gas is the norm for riots and remember, parents that choose to drag their children with them amidst turmoil put the children at risk, not the border patrol. Those that use their children as pawns should gain no sympathy.

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President Trump threatened to close the US border as chaos erupted in San Ysidro, California when hundreds of migrants — mostly men — rushed the border to enter the United States illegally.

Border patrol agents shot several rounds of tear gas after migrants threw rocks and bottles at them and tried to illegally cross onto sovereign US territory.

Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) issued a statement saying it refused entry to migrants who tried to breach the border. About 90% of the migrants in the various caravans are young men, but some women with small children are scattered among the group, according to multiple press reports.
Mainstream media outlets trying to paint the weekend border incident as President Trump utilizing tear gas on women and children is plain wrong. While women and children were affected, the use of the tear gas was due to hundreds of men rushing the border and, at one point, even successfully climbing over the first border wall.

And guess what, it seems that the strategy of rushing the border has stopped. The gas worked.


ya they moved to other areas to climb the fence illegally... yep 2 year olds getting over an 18 foot fnce... another trump failure, he forgot ladders can scale any wall...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/migrant-caravan-footage-shows-children-222230288.html

Migrant caravan: Footage shows children being thrown over 18-foot Arizona border fence

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An apparent smuggler has been caught on camera appearing to throw two migrant children over an 18-foot (5.5 metre) tall border fence between Arizona and Mexico and into the arms of their families. The video footage of the nail-biting moment was released by US Border Patrol on Monday.

The footage captured the moment a suspected smuggler attempted to help a Guatemalan family cross the border by climbing the fence. In the video, the smuggler dropped the family’s three children—who were the ages of 2, 7, and 10—from the top of the wall for their adult relatives to catch them from 18-feet below on the other side of the border fence.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/tired-waiting-asylum-migrants-caravan-breach-u-border-055311314.html

Tired of waiting for asylum, migrants from caravan breach U.S. border

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TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Central American migrants stuck on the threshold of the United States in Mexico breached the border fence on Monday, risking almost certain detention by U.S. authorities but hoping the illegal entry will allow them to apply for asylum.

Since mid-October, thousands of Central Americans, mostly from Honduras, have traveled north through Mexico in a caravan, some walking much of the long trek.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
Far from perfect? You must be joking, right?

Why bring up a bunch of questionable nonsense blaming the left? That's simply BS, and thoughtful folks know that. You might not want to admit it, but many recognized conservatives have been quite critical of Donald Trump.

Really, it's all about the facts. Trump's long history of lies and deceit doesn't change the truth.


Those Republicans who don't like Trump are Koch brothers, globalists, New World order types, and War mongers. Similar to the Democrats.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
swchandler wrote:
Far from perfect? You must be joking, right?

Why bring up a bunch of questionable nonsense blaming the left? That's simply BS, and thoughtful folks know that. You might not want to admit it, but many recognized conservatives have been quite critical of Donald Trump.

Really, it's all about the facts. Trump's long history of lies and deceit doesn't change the truth.


Those Republicans who don't like Trump are Koch brothers, globalists, New World order types, and War mongers. Similar to the Democrats.


ya the Koch brothers only funded a billion dollars worth of money for people who all support everything Trump does. Give us the name of one right wing er the Koch brothers got elected voted against all things trump.

you low-level non-thinker

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Techno, were you standing with Matty when he was cheering the tear gassing?

There was actually a real answer I would have given you to the “what do you think should be done”, but your comment makes clear your lack of empathy, or interest in the rule of law as it pertains to asylum claims.

In a word, competence is what is required. Try reading just a bit of “The Fifth Risk”, by Lewis. You can get a preview here. https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Fifth_Risk.html?id=WFBkDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button

The incompetence of Trump and his criminal gang is a threat not just to our way of government—but to our very lives.

I will remain contemptuous of those so afraid of immigrants of color that they voted for Trump, believing the most outlandish lies about Hillary Clinton instead of the evident truths of Donald Trump.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
So Techno, were you standing with Matty when he was cheering the tear gassing?

There was actually a real answer I would have given you to the “what do you think should be done”, but your comment makes clear your lack of empathy, or interest in the rule of law as it pertains to asylum claims.

In a word, competence is what is required. Try reading just a bit of “The Fifth Risk”, by Lewis. You can get a preview here. https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Fifth_Risk.html?id=WFBkDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button

The incompetence of Trump and his criminal gang is a threat not just to our way of government—but to our very lives.

I will remain contemptuous of those so afraid of immigrants of color that they voted for Trump, believing the most outlandish lies about Hillary Clinton instead of the evident truths of Donald Trump.




You are one sick old man......by the way retard keep an eye on next Thursday when there will be a briefing about FBI findings into HRC and her corrupt husband..... two whistle blowers will be testifying.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see Matty instantly posted without bothering to read—or think. We already know you’re stupid and with Trump to the bitter end. Try adding something.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guru's right
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