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jp5



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Clueless. Nixon lost the Presidency because he authorized a break-in on Democratic offices—and then obstructed justice. Trump has obstructed justice. Seems pretty simple.


And Obama authorized a FISA warrant against an American citizen based upon unverified data from a foreign source. Now who is clueless?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpbassman wrote:
mac wrote:
Clueless. Nixon lost the Presidency because he authorized a break-in on Democratic offices—and then obstructed justice. Trump has obstructed justice. Seems pretty simple.


And Obama authorized a FISA warrant against an American citizen based upon unverified data from a foreign source. Now who is clueless?


And lied on several occasions that he knew nothing, when it has been proven that he was receiving updates on the progress of the deep state to bring down Trump...Obama is a 6 foot tall pile of lying dogshit.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's up with this obsession with our great former president and the requisite law enforcement during his presidency?

Shouldn't we talk about current events, like the striking retirement of Paul Ryan?

I read an article today on Ryan that may be illuminating when it comes to understanding the puzzling mindset of right wingers today.

It starts with the obvious.

"Paul Ryan cultivated an image that was false in some major ways. He pretended to be a budget hawk but consistently supported tax cuts that increased the deficit. He pretended to care about poverty but opposed many policies that had a record of reducing poverty."

And then.

"But I don't agree with the notion that Ryan is a complete hypocrite. He's long displayed one admirable trait: A strain of honesty. He has acknowledged his desire to shrink popular programs like Medicare and Social Security. Many other Republicans refuse to admit as much. They claim that the government can cut taxes deeply for the rich and that Medicare and Social Security can somehow magically remain exactly as they are."

And finally, I have never seen this spelled out so clearly.

"The critics who flay Ryan as a coward have never understood that his actions are a form of idealism," Jonathan Chait writes in New York magazine. "To Ryan, the greatest danger to liberty lies not in a president who defies the rule of law but in high tax rates and a functioning social safety net."

Do right wingers agree with this last statement?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/opinion/paul-ryan-hypocrite.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LHDR wrote:
What's up with this obsession with our great former president and the requisite law enforcement during his presidency?

Shouldn't we talk about current events, like the striking retirement of Paul Ryan?

I read an article today on Ryan that may be illuminating when it comes to understanding the puzzling mindset of right wingers today.

It starts with the obvious.

"Paul Ryan cultivated an image that was false in some major ways. He pretended to be a budget hawk but consistently supported tax cuts that increased the deficit. He pretended to care about poverty but opposed many policies that had a record of reducing poverty."

And then.

"But I don't agree with the notion that Ryan is a complete hypocrite. He's long displayed one admirable trait: A strain of honesty. He has acknowledged his desire to shrink popular programs like Medicare and Social Security. Many other Republicans refuse to admit as much. They claim that the government can cut taxes deeply for the rich and that Medicare and Social Security can somehow magically remain exactly as they are."

And finally, I have never seen this spelled out so clearly.

"The critics who flay Ryan as a coward have never understood that his actions are a form of idealism," Jonathan Chait writes in New York magazine. "To Ryan, the greatest danger to liberty lies not in a president who defies the rule of law but in high tax rates and a functioning social safety net."

Do right wingers agree with this last statement?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/opinion/paul-ryan-hypocrite.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region



The obsession with Shit Pile and the corrupt departments he left behind are VERY relevant to the current situation.....Maybe you didn't hear but it was Obama and has band of scum bags that set these traps for Trump. Not to mention Obama and Hillary continue to cross the globe and speak ill of the election process and our new president....

Not only is this disgusting behavior but a danger to our democracy ....shameful, even if it is Trump..
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wsurfer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
LHDR wrote:
What's up with this obsession with our great former president and the requisite law enforcement during his presidency?

Shouldn't we talk about current events, like the striking retirement of Paul Ryan?

I read an article today on Ryan that may be illuminating when it comes to understanding the puzzling mindset of right wingers today.

It starts with the obvious.

"Paul Ryan cultivated an image that was false in some major ways. He pretended to be a budget hawk but consistently supported tax cuts that increased the deficit. He pretended to care about poverty but opposed many policies that had a record of reducing poverty."

And then.

"But I don't agree with the notion that Ryan is a complete hypocrite. He's long displayed one admirable trait: A strain of honesty. He has acknowledged his desire to shrink popular programs like Medicare and Social Security. Many other Republicans refuse to admit as much. They claim that the government can cut taxes deeply for the rich and that Medicare and Social Security can somehow magically remain exactly as they are."

And finally, I have never seen this spelled out so clearly.

"The critics who flay Ryan as a coward have never understood that his actions are a form of idealism," Jonathan Chait writes in New York magazine. "To Ryan, the greatest danger to liberty lies not in a president who defies the rule of law but in high tax rates and a functioning social safety net."

Do right wingers agree with this last statement?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/opinion/paul-ryan-hypocrite.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region



The obsession with Shit Pile and the corrupt departments he left behind are VERY relevant to the current situation.....Maybe you didn't hear but it was Obama and has band of scum bags that set these traps for Trump. Not to mention Obama and Hillary continue to cross the globe and speak ill of the election process and our new president....

Not only is this disgusting behavior but a danger to our democracy ....shameful, even if it is Trump..


In case you clueless right wingers have not noticed, it's not about Obama vs. Trump anymore.

He won the election with Twitter
And with rallies that made people feel bitter
But now that he's elected
They have not detected
That he is the biggest bullshitter
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immigration, one of Obama's greatest accomplishments

https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.kinart/posts/10160494052775492
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wsurfer



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Immigration, one of Obama's greatest accomplishments

https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.kinart/posts/10160494052775492


That link doesn't work without a login and I refuse.
This one works.

https://www.good.is/articles/obamas-achievements-in-office
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-exaggerations-jobs-are-wrong-and-unnecessary?cid=eml_mra_20180605


Trump’s exaggerations on jobs are wrong and unnecessary

06/05/18 01:02 PM—UPDATED 06/05/18 01:28 PM
By Steve Benen
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As Donald Trump’s first year in office wrapped up, the Republican president bragged about the nation’s job totals as if they represented an extraordinary accomplishment. They didn’t: job growth in 2017 was actually the worst in seven years.

So far in 2018, the numbers look better, which has apparently led Trump to take his rhetoric in an even more irresponsible direction. Take some of his tweets from yesterday:

“In many ways this is the greatest economy in the HISTORY of America and the best time EVER to look for a job! … Best Economy & Jobs EVER”

Over the first 16 months of Trump’s presidency, the economy has created 2.97 million jobs. What’s wrong with that? Absolutely nothing. It’s a perfectly good number, reflecting a healthy job market. But what he may not know is that in the preceding 16 months – in other words, Barack Obama’s final 16 months in office – the economy created 3.45 million jobs.

Let’s take this a step further. So far in 2018, the economy has added 1.047 million jobs, which again, is an encouraging figure. But to put this in context, consider the January-to-May job totals from the last several years:

2012: 1,034,000
2013: 1,047,000
2014: 1,180,000
2015: 1,144,000
2016: 803,000
2017: 862,000
2018: 1,047,000

What Donald Trump, eager to repeat self-aggrandizing boasts, seems to miss is a simple truth: there’s a difference between seeing the strongest job growth in the history of the United States and seeing the strongest job growth since 2015.


What’s more, the president also continues to make the mistake of being born on third base and thinking he hit a triple. Americans have reason to be pleased with the health of the job market and the low unemployment rate, but these are trends that began long before Trump took office. Managing not to screw things up isn’t the same thing as accomplishing something historic.

Maybe, Trump fans will argue, job growth is nice, but what really matters is the strength of the overall economy. It’s why the president said yesterday that this is “the greatest economy in the HISTORY of America.”

Except it’s not. GDP growth, for example, looked good in the president’s first year, but it fell short, not only of Trump’s campaign promises, but also of GDP growth across much of Barack Obama’s presidency.

As we discussed i

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