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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly, you don't get it. If there is little difference between public and internal polls when it comes to accuracy - who gives a flying flip which polls the Russian have access to. Like I said, they just have to google any poll they want to see. It's just so simple. I know it's difficult to penetrate your foggy brain.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
Clearly, you don't get it. If there is little difference between public and internal polls when it comes to accuracy - who gives a flying flip which polls the Russian have access to. Like I said, they just have to google any poll they want to see. It's just so simple. I know it's difficult to penetrate your foggy brain.


not at all... these are such different polls, they are micro-targeted... nope you will not find these polls by googling them, you idiot. you would I figure hire data-scientists that specialize in polling or marketing people who specialize in polling or even psychologists that are affiliated with polling to do these and it would not be cheap. This type of data by either political party is held very tightly is how valuable it is.

You would need to direct the russians to understand very deeply americans to do this kind of polling and they would not do it well. So has to come from the us people for them to set the trolls attacking which we knew they did. We saw that the dutch hacked into one of the troll farms video systems and recorded the trolls entering and leaving the workplace.

ya I know you and your generals and your sicko kind will believe Hillary is selling children from a pizza factory but will not understand the facts from a criminal case that is under penalty of going to jail for false information that the defendant's attorneys messed up and did not redact. You can not even understand why he and his attorneys do not want that public and that Manafort was lying to protect. He certainly knows it is collusion. Only idiots like you and your generals do not. Well actually the general knows he was breaking the laws by lying about his collusion is why he lied.

you are just tooo friggen stupid. Have no idea what you did for a job but certainly you fed up anything you worked on. Such a no-level thinker you are.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
Clearly, you don't get it. If there is little difference between public and internal polls when it comes to accuracy - who gives a flying flip which polls the Russian have access to. Like I said, they just have to google any poll they want to see. It's just so simple. I know it's difficult to penetrate your foggy brain.


Clearly you don't get it Techno. Under Citizen's United, anybody, corporations or individuals, can spend as much as they want to support a candidate they favor. The Court found that this was protected speech under the First Amendment. But there are two qualifications. First, such independent groups cannot coordinate their efforts with those of the campaign. Second, campaigns cannot accept contributions from foreign governments. Contributions include direct help on campaigns as well as cash. Hacking Hillary's campaign's e-mails falls under these requirements.

The latter requirement is what puts Kushner and Don Jr. at risk for their meeting with Russian agents at Trump tower. They were involved in an attempt, some would say a conspiracy, to secure help on the campaign from not just Russian business people, but the Russian government. Manfort's involvement actively with Russian agents, revealed yesterday by his incompetent attorneys, shows that there was an effort to coordinate independent expenditures with the campaign. (Of course the second alleged crime is the effort of many, including Trump senior, to cover up the meeting--arguably obstruction of justice.)

The same provision applies to Trump's directing Cohen to pay off however many women he actually paid off. This wasn't an independent expenditure by supporters of Trump, protected speech under Citizens United, because it was directed by Trump in order to protect him during the campaign. It clearly wasn't Trump money at the time--once a cheat always a cheat.

You guys might say fewer silly things if you actually did a little reading, or tuned into some channel except Fox. Then you might get it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/judge-requires-manafort-to-appear-at-hearing-on-plea-deal-breach-1431022147508

Judge requires Manafort to appear at hearing on plea deal breach

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Rachel Maddow reports on the upcoming hearing in the case of former Donald Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and whether he violated his plea agreement with Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBxKvJPTfA

Donald Trump Team Lying Perplexes As Robert Mueller Adds Another Indictment | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC


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Rachel Maddow reports on the indictment of long-time Donald Trump friend and political adviser Roger Stone, and notes that yet again a member of Trump's circle has been caught lying about something that on the surface didn't need to be a secret.
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Donald Trump Team Lying Perplexes As Robert Mueller Adds Another Indictment | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so when taking a plea deal why did he intentional lie about only the things that are directly related to trump collusion/criminal activities. And why did trump never attack this criminal like he did cohen.

Cohen the most trusted person he had dealing with the most secritive issues. I say because Manfort held back on the trump issues and was expecting a pardon. so how did he funnel this info to trump to obstruct justice? so he can get a pardon.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/mueller-extends-winning-streak-as-judge-blows-up-manafort-deal-1442365507719?cid=eml_mra_20190214

Mueller extends winning streak as judge blows up Manafort deal
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Rachel Maddow rounds up a collection of new developments in Donald Trump-related court cases, the biggest of which is that a judge has found that Paul Manafort lies to investigators, thereby violating the terms of his plea deal with prosecutors.


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-may-have-lied-to-stay-in-trump-s-good-graces-schiff-1442361923910

Manafort may have lied to stay in Trump's good graces: Schiff
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Rep. Adam Schiff, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee talks with Rachel Maddow about what would motivate Paul Manafort to put his cooperation agreement at risk by continuing to lie to Mueller's investigators, suggesting that a pardon from Donald Trump could be what Manafort had in mind.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

again 3 findings of proof he lied about communications with the Russians GRU spies dealing with collusion and direct coordination.

again why does he continue to lie as there would have been no more charges or long sentencing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvHaDgXBbiI

Paul Manafort Lied To Mueller, Faces Spending His Life In Prison

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A Federal Judge sides with Mueller, saying Mueller has proved Manafort lied to investigators in the middle of his cooperation deal. Ari Melber breaks down how Mueller’s prosecutors are no longer bound to any lighter sentence meaning Manafort could now face a much heavier jail sentence.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbNbovoJ6os


trump offered manafort a pardon, obviously because he was involved with Russia, now we know why he was willing to lie after being convicted and agreeeeing full co-operation.

lock up up lock him up.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

read what this judge said... specifically, that manafort lied and mislead to defend the russian who was involved with russias involvement with attacking the usa for trump.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/stone-takes-swipe-at-judge-promptly-files-notice-of-apology-1444578371566


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Stone takes swipe at judge, promptly files 'notice of apology'

Rachel Maddow reports on Roger Stone posting a photo of the judge in his case, Amy Berman Jackson, on social media with a cross hairs symbol near her head, along with a rant against the judge. Eventually the image was taken down and Stone and his lawyers filed a formal apology with the court.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.huffingtonpost.com.mx/entry/manafort-state-charges-ny-trump_us_5c7038b7e4b06cf6bb256cf7

New York Prosecutors Will Charge Manafort In Bid To Prevent Trump Pardon: Reports
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The president has so far refused to take pardoning his former campaign chairman off the table.

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President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort may soon face New York state criminal charges, multiple outlets reported on Friday. Although Manafort has already been convicted of multiple federal crimes, state criminal cases are not subject to presidential pardons and Trump would not be able to use his executive power to free Manafort if he’s found guilty.

Manafort is currently facing the prospect of decades in prison as he awaits his sentencing next month for an array of crimes including bank fraud and conspiracy. After initially agreeing to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation last year as part of a plea deal, he broke his agreement when he repeatedly lied to federal investigators and is now almost certain to receive a lengthy sentence.


But there has always been hope for Manafort in the form of a presidential pardon, which Trump could use to effectively wipe the slate clean and save his former campaign chief from jail time. Trump has so far refused to take pardoning Manafort off the table and routinely criticizes the Mueller investigation as a “witch hunt” and “McCarthyism,” leading experts to speculate that Manafort may have been remaining loyal to the president in hopes of a pardon.

If state prosecutors in New York bring charges against Manafort, however, it would provide a bulwark against a pardon. But the charges would have to be different from those the special counsel brought against Manafort in order to avoid New York’s double jeopardy laws. The New York County district attorney, Cyrus Vance Jr., has declined to comment on the reported charges being prepared against Manafort.

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