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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject: who is Paul Manafort Reply with quote

russian- Urkrainian president off the books payments to Manafort just 12 million or so...

that manafort was wiretapped...

changes his statement he did have dealings with Russia.

ya only owes 60 million is the latest number. just a loan?...

a win win win deal was hand delivered by trumps lawyer to trump for Putin... drop russian sanction, give russia Crimea, and put russian oligarch the rest of Ukraine again removing the present president in Ukraine.


Justice Department is not bringing charges of pejury by Manafort for lying to the FBI, because Jeff Sessions will not do it.

We need an independent counsel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GIVHivbkI

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Rachel Maddow reports on the murky overlap between Ukrainian oligarch Dmitry Firtash, Vladimir Putin, and the Donald Trump campaign and alerts viewers to watch for whether the Department of Justice under Trump continues to pursue a case against Firtash.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eymEN-sRyFo

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NBC News reports Paul Manafort took notes in the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians, and the notes include mention of political contributions next to "RNC." Now Robert Mueller has those notes. Ken Dilanian, Betsy Woodruff, & Mieke Eoyang join Lawrence O'Donnell.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgNKD_kgZqg

New York Times: Paul Manafort Wiretapped Under Secret Court Orders | The Last Word | MSNBC

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A fmr. federal prosecutor says Mueller's scrutiny of the Trump campaign feels like a probe into an "organized crime syndicate" and a report says the US gov't wiretapped Manafort. Watergate prosecutor Nick Ackerman, Mieke Eoyang & Ron Klain join Lawrence O'Donnell.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBObfFTD5h4

Newly Revealed Russia Interactions At Top Of Donald Trump's Campaign | The Last Word | MSNBC

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NBC News confirms Paul Manafort offered to give campaign briefings to a Russian billionaire in Putin's inner circle. Plus, another former Trump campaign official has tough words for any potential colluders. Matt Miller and Jill Wine-Banks join Lawrence O'Donnell.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiGDpla58YI

First On The Beat: Secret Paul Manafort Memo To Trump Revealed

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NYT reporter Glenn Thrush and former prosecutor Renato Mariotti joins Ari Melber to break down the exclusive Paul Manafort memos in which he makes the case to be the Trump campaign chair

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that another crime by the bag man for the Russian mob trying to protect Trump will sway the win nuts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-manafort-witness-deal-implosion-is-a-very-big-deal/2018/11/28/cc242ab0-f338-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b7d03554067e
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow... his law team filed a brief that exposed manafort met with a russian GRU operative in Spain and gave trumps polling data-information. Manfort lied about this even after pleading guilting. His lawyers forgot to redact this in his filing.

geee we have the collusion by the head of the trump campaign ... geee he is doing it in spain and hiding it. hiding it after telling the american people that he is guilty of other crimes and has disclosed all illegal activities. This is treason.

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/new-russia-revelations-in-court-docs-surrounding-trump-tower-meeting-attendees-1422236739606

New Russia revelations in court docs surrounding Trump Tower meeting attendees

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NYT’s Ken Vogel, former FBI assistant director Frank Figliuzzi, former US attorney Chuck Rosenberg on the indictment of Russian operative Natalia Veselnitskaya & new revelations in Manafort court docs tied to the Mueller investigation




https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/russian-lawyer-who-met-kushner-manafort-don-jr-indicted-1422270019803

Russian lawyer who met Kushner, Manafort, Don Jr. indicted

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As President Trump readies his Oval Office address on the Government shutdown, the Russian lawyer who met with Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Jr. at the 2016 Trump Tower meeting, is indicted by Federal Prosecutors. MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber breaks down how we are now at the point where two people from the Trump Tower meeting have been indicted by the feds – one on the Trump side and one on the Russia side. Harvard Law Professor, Laurence Tribe, tells Melber that the Russian lawyer, Natalya Veselnitskaya, has been “clearly exposed as an agent of the Kremlin”.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a 2012 story:
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When Internal Polls Mislead, a Whole Campaign May Be to Blame
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Pollsters can expect to take their share of blame when their campaigns lose, and this year has been no exception. Not long after Barack Obama and Democrats had a strong night on Nov. 6, Republicans began to complain publicly that the polls conducted by their campaigns and by affiliated groups implied considerably more optimistic outcomes for them than actually occurred.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/when-internal-polls-mislead-a-whole-campaign-may-be-to-blame/

I don't know if one is more accurate than the other ("internal" or "public" polls), but I wanted to get an idea of what an "internal poll" was and how they are used.

Regardless, my question is - are internal political polls classified information? Maybe confidential for some party leaders trying to get a better handle on public opinion, but from what I found, hardly anything that if published, shared or leaked would make any real difference to anyone, including the Russians, and can quite possibly be misleading. Access to public and published internal polls is available to anyone in the world with a phone or computer. What's the big deal? Lying I guess.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
From a 2012 story:
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When Internal Polls Mislead, a Whole Campaign May Be to Blame
By Nate Silver

Pollsters can expect to take their share of blame when their campaigns lose, and this year has been no exception. Not long after Barack Obama and Democrats had a strong night on Nov. 6, Republicans began to complain publicly that the polls conducted by their campaigns and by affiliated groups implied considerably more optimistic outcomes for them than actually occurred.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/when-internal-polls-mislead-a-whole-campaign-may-be-to-blame/

I don't know if one is more accurate than the other ("internal" or "public" polls), but I wanted to get an idea of what an "internal poll" was and how they are used.

Regardless, my question is - are internal political polls classified information? Maybe confidential for some party leaders trying to get a better handle on public opinion, but from what I found, hardly anything that if published, shared or leaked would make any real difference to anyone, including the Russians, and can quite possibly be misleading. Access to public and published internal polls is available to anyone in the world with a phone or computer. What's the big deal? Lying I guess.


you really are too stupid to ever understand. We learned that the russians with Cambridge analytica effects used micro-targeted specific groups. These groups would have been identified in polling as the most likely to change and or for instance use negative articles fake news to not vote. IE make bernie voters not vote for hillary with fake new that hillary did something wrong and so on, target certain blacks to get them to not vote saying nothing will change in specific areas of close races. Vs having to spend millions on general commercials that if you blatently lied the network would not allow it aired. Pizzagate would not have been aired but you had the russians and Trump including Flynn pushing that hillary was involved in a pizza place selling children. Only idiot right wingers would believe that and they had a general who was in charge of national security believing it and passing it on.

I know it is way above your paygrade,

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly, you don't get it. If there is little difference between public and internal polls when it comes to accuracy - who gives a flying flip which polls the Russian have access to. Like I said, they just have to google any poll they want to see. It's just so simple. I know it's difficult to penetrate your foggy brain.
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