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dhmark



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's mine on Ebay. Could put it anywhere from mast foot to below boom, might need shimming for firm fit on RDM.


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ctuna



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Location: Santa Cruz Ca

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a modern short board its the mast that hits
the board not the boom unless you have unusual dimensions
or like your boom at belly button height.
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mamero



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a mast pad might be the way to go. I'll see if I can find one. Thanks for the suggestions everyone.
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mamero



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did some searching. It seems no one makes mast pads anymore. As others mentioned earlier it is not going to be the boom that strikes the nose; rather the mast. Back to square one.

What about a Deviator?

Does anyone use them or have previous experience using the Deviator? It could perhaps do the trick however, I have some questions or concerns about the Deviator.

1. It looks like unless the mast falls directly forward toward the nose and Deviator, it will bypass the Deviator altogether and strike the board either side of it. How wide of an arc does the Deviator protect?

2. If the mast does make contact with the Deviator there is a lot of force that still has to be transferred somewhere (i.e. in to the mast or through the Deviator back in to the boards' mast track. Anyone ever broken a mast or damaged a board at the mast track from using a Deviator?

3. It is installed in a pretty important location.
A. Does it interfere with your feet when you are doing tacks and stepping around the front of the board?
B. When setting up for a waterstart does it prevent you from maneuvering the sail over the nose of the board?

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Brian_S



Joined: 11 Jun 2005
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Location: SE Michigan

PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can still buy the NSI nose pads (see my earlier link).

Many people (including me) don't like the deviators because of the pinch point (don't get a hand or foot caught between the mast and deviator), the potential to tear out your mast track, and the difficulty in maneuvering the rig while you're in the water.

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dmilovich



Joined: 19 Jul 2009
Posts: 78

PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ion makes mast pads for SDM and RDM.
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westender



Joined: 02 Aug 2007
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Location: Portland / Gorge

PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible to destroy the Deviator and the deck of your board, but it wasn't me. I doubt you would have that problem.

mamero wrote:
. Anyone ever broken a mast or damaged a board at the mast track from using a Deviator?
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justall



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I hear you on the concern about the look of a nose pad, but they can be applied to be less noticeable. I used a northshorinc nose pad ( http://northshoreinc.com/store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=142 ), using Isobars' installation tips. The edges were white and stood out on my orange board. So, I used an orange Sharpie to color the edge. Really helped it blend in.

I held off adding a nose pad for a few seasons, but I ended up cracking/crushing the nose of my board twice due to mast strikes. Having to come off the water early and spending time on the repairs were worse than the slightly altered look, imo. Since adding the pad, no more damage (knock on ... er .. pad); and, I know the mast has slammed the nose hard several times in crashes.

I didn't care for the deviators when needing to manipulate the rig in the water, but just a personal choice.
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grantmac017



Joined: 04 Aug 2016
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a deviator for foiling since the rigs are light and catapults are common. It works well for what it's designed to do and I haven't cracked a nose with it yet.
However padding both mast and board is better IMHO.
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DanWeiss



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beware The Deviator. It is known to tear out mast boxes, though it can save the nose and rails of your board.
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