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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stupid Matty. The memo is about Carter Page, who the FBI knew had been recruited by Russia to be a spy in 2013--years before the campaign or the Steele Dossier. The idea that the only evidence of his suspect Russia connections was the Steele Dossier and Clinton funding is utter horseshit. You are a fool. Any lie that Trump tells you will be believe.

You seem to have forgotten about the other 3 scum bags that Trump hired, two of whom have admitted guilt.



Wrong shithead, Page was never a spy and the FBI knew that,but the sold it to the judge anyways. And the fake dossier was the by far the focal point of the warrant. Trump has said very little, I get me info from reliable sources, and not just one.

If you think this is going to end well for Dummycrate you are delusional.

You better stock up on the Depends it going to be a shitty spring for clowns like you.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delusional Matty. Page was recruited as a spy. The FBI found out about it--not from Page. 2013. The other three shitbags with ties to Russia? You keep trying to avoid the guilty pleas.

I guess you think the ESJ is a libaral mouthpiece. https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-trump-aide-carter-page-was-on-u-s-counterintelligence-radar-before-russia-dossier-1517486401

I'll repeat the Newsweek story since you seem determined to remain ignorant.

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Page’s work in Russia began in the late 1990s, when he briefly worked for the Eurasia Group, a consulting company that advises banks and multinational corporations. He left abruptly after three months.

“It was very clear he was ideologically very strongly pro-Kremlin, which wasn’t at all clear when he interviewed. As a result, he wasn’t a good fit at Eurasia Group,” Ian Bremmer, the company’s president, told The Guardian in 2017.

Bremmer even called Page “the most wackadoodle” Eurasia Group alumnus on Twitter.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Delusional Matty. Page was recruited as a spy. The FBI found out about it--not from Page. 2013. The other three shitbags with ties to Russia? You keep trying to avoid the guilty pleas.

I guess you think the ESJ is a libaral mouthpiece. https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-trump-aide-carter-page-was-on-u-s-counterintelligence-radar-before-russia-dossier-1517486401

I'll repeat the Newsweek story since you seem determined to remain ignorant.

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Page’s work in Russia began in the late 1990s, when he briefly worked for the Eurasia Group, a consulting company that advises banks and multinational corporations. He left abruptly after three months.

“It was very clear he was ideologically very strongly pro-Kremlin, which wasn’t at all clear when he interviewed. As a result, he wasn’t a good fit at Eurasia Group,” Ian Bremmer, the company’s president, told The Guardian in 2017.

Bremmer even called Page “the most wackadoodle” Eurasia Group alumnus on Twitter.



Non of his work was illegal or with any wrong doing. He was known to them but they never acted on anything FOR 5 YEARS because there was nothing there. Then they sold a LIE to the judge. News flash DB there were plenty of people in Britain that were never Trumpers, and had an agenda like yours.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mac wrote:
Stupid Matty. The memo is about Carter Page, who the FBI knew had been recruited by Russia to be a spy in 2013--years before the campaign or the Steele Dossier. The idea that the only evidence of his suspect Russia connections was the Steele Dossier and Clinton funding is utter horseshit. You are a fool. Any lie that Trump tells you will be believe.

You seem to have forgotten about the other 3 scum bags that Trump hired, two of whom have admitted guilt.

Who the FBI knew the Russians tried to recruit.
Big difference, otherwise he'd be in jail.


mac, I've got a big old dilapidated bridge to sell you. It will take you from Berkeley all the way over to Nancy "crumbs" Pelosi's house.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silly NW. Do you think that some nonsense about selling a bridge—a stale trope when I was six—can divert attention from Trump hiring 4 scumbags because of their ties to Russia? Do you think that none of the four were detected in wiretaps obtained with FISA warrants talking to Russian agents during the campaign?

It doesn’t surprise me that you righties who ranted about Hillary’s e-mails making her vulnerable to blackmail from the Russians manage to justify vast economic ties between the Trump team team and Russian agents that orbit around efforts to relax sanctions so team members can make more money. Like ignoring Trump’s flaunting of the sanctions law last week, it is an example of Republican hypcrisy—and perhaps utter corruption.

But you don’t answer the fundamental question—do you not care about the corruption, or are you in on the action?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay mac, we may be getting somewhere, you didn't insist that the Russians did recruit Carter Page, they only tried, but failed.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Rep. Nadler—who has actually read the FISA warrant, Nunes didn’t bother—Nunes memo is deliberately misleading and wrong on the law. Won’t matter to the hapless and hopleless Trumpists.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From Rep. Nadler—who has actually read the FISA warrant, Nunes didn’t bother—Nunes memo is deliberately misleading and wrong on the law. Won’t matter to the hapless and hopleless Trumpists.


Nunes read the Warrant MAC, all five of them. Why do you say things that you actually know nothing about.

Nadler is towing the party line, nothing more, big fat hack.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW—on the unlikely chance that you might actually read some journalism, this provides the back story of the Russkies efforts to recruit Page in 2013. As even the WSJ has acknowledged, any element of the Steele Dossier cited in the FISA warrants had been corroborated by other sources. Clearly there were reasons for the FBI to keep an eye on Page and see if he had successfully been recruited by the Russians. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/03/carter-page-nunes-memo-216934
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Silly NW. Do you think that some nonsense about selling a bridge—a stale trope when I was six—can divert attention from Trump hiring 4 scumbags because of their ties to Russia? Do you think that none of the four were detected in wiretaps obtained with FISA warrants talking to Russian agents during the campaign?

It doesn’t surprise me that you righties who ranted about Hillary’s e-mails making her vulnerable to blackmail from the Russians manage to justify vast economic ties between the Trump team team and Russian agents that orbit around efforts to relax sanctions so team members can make more money. Like ignoring Trump’s flaunting of the sanctions law last week, it is an example of Republican hypcrisy—and perhaps utter corruption.

But you don’t answer the fundamental question—do you not care about the corruption, or are you in on the action?



Do you care about corruption????? I do, and where it began. This whole thing stinks and you know it. Using Obama , the FBI ,and DOJ to spy on a political opponent during an election is unconscionable. That's exactly what happened and the evidence is overwhelming. Keep dreaming, this not going to end well for the Dems and their plot to bring Trump down.


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