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skyking1231



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:33 am    Post subject: Sailworks NX Reply with quote

for those who have or had.... did you use shims on the cams ?

right now i have zero shims in...i found that when i rigged the sail, i didn't need any. and the cams rotated better without. I have no wrinkles in the luff area, it is taught. after saying that ...i may add a small shim to the lower cam. But just wondering if others use the shims. Maybe as the sail stretches a bit (it is new), i'll have to add some??
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't mess with what works.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dllee wrote:
Don't mess with what works.


Correct, I agree!!

I have some NX's and use "0 to as few shims" I can.
They are included, in case a slightly smaller diameter mast makes things too loose... or the sail is really strected out, etc. Some hard core pro type racers might want their leff even tighter, so might add a shim. But I like a sail that rotates without needing a, muscle-man "POP" while in 30 mph wind. A normal pop after turning, is all I want to do, to rotate the sail.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.... thanks for the replies.

I have seen the luderitz videos of guys and gals shimming the crap out of their sails. But then, they are sailing one direction l and going stupid fast ...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skyking1231 wrote:
Ok.... thanks for the replies.

I have seen the luderitz videos of guys and gals shimming the crap out of their sails. But then, they are sailing one direction l and going stupid fast ...

... right. And doing it in 50 mph wind.

Most of us here are recreational sailors... and we are windsurfing for fun.
Most of us here are not world cup pros... and there is no need to copy some weird, little, unique thing that a pro does while sailing in extreme conditions. Yes, they might have a picky little reason, when sailing in their specific conditions, that a certain tweak might help them, a tiny bit. And often in top competition, there is only a tiny bit separating 1st from 2nd.
But sometimes these specific little tweaks, make regular all round windsurfing... worse!
Keep things simple!!
That's usually best and the most fun!!

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregnw44 wrote:
Keep things simple!!
That's usually best and the most fun!!


And to follow up on that statement do you really need the cams? Most sailors don't.

Coachg
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coachg wrote:
gregnw44 wrote:
Keep things simple!!
That's usually best and the most fun!!


And to follow up on that statement do you really need the cams? Most sailors don't.

Coachg


I agree!!

Personally, if I had lots of days with wind averaging around 20-ish (or more)... I probably wouldn't have any cammed sails. And the sails I use for the rare days I get that, don't have cams.

But most of my windsurfing is in wind closer to 5 mph... so that's why I also have lots of big cammed sails. And when it's 10-20, I have options to pick, cam or no-cam sails.

I have only a couple, big, hi-tension, stiff, cammed race sail's. And I don't use those much. Because most of my big cammed race sails are easy to rig... and really easy to rotate.
I have cammed race sails in the 8 to 10m range that are faster to rig, than modern RAF sails of the same size (way faster to rig). And they rotate just as easily "as a RAF sail that is rigged for power".

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS - I also like cammed sails for windfoiling. And have some in the 5.5 to 9m range for that. Cause there's less wind pressure in the sail when foiling, cause you're using less sail area, in less wind. So I like the power and stability of lightweight, easy rotating, cammed sails for that.
However, I also know some windfoiler's who seem to do ok with RAF sails in similar conditions. I think they would do a bit better with cammed sails... but they're using what they have, which is fine.
It's nice to have options Smile

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coachg wrote:
gregnw44 wrote:
Keep things simple!!
That's usually best and the most fun!!


And to follow up on that statement do you really need the cams? Most sailors don't.

Coachg


Need, no. Prefer in sails above 7m, definitely.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grantmac017 wrote:
Need, no. Prefer in sails above 7m, definitely.


Yup. And that applies to foiling as well.

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