Airhead Diversity

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer

Not surprisingly, you are wrong on ALL counts in your brilliance above ....
I don't blame Hannity, I blame the righty propaganda machine--taking poor saps like yourself and brainwashing them into helpless bots...

vientomas · Joined: 25 Apr 2000 Posts: 2343

mat-ty · Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850

mat-ty · Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850

mat-ty · Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850

Then, after issuing the license, the Obama administration explicitly denied to Congress that it had done so. Lew and Szubin both failed to disclose the license in congressional testimony while continuing to assert that the Obama administration would not give Iran access to U.S. financial institutions — when they had just tried to do so. And in a June 2016 letter to Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Treasury officials declared “The U.S. Department of Treasury is not working on behalf of Iran to enable Iranian access to U.S. dollars elsewhere in the international financial system, nor are we assisting Iran in gaining access to dollar payment systems outside the U.S. financial system. The Administration has not been and is not planning to grant Iran access to the U.S. financial system.” This was patently false.

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer

mac · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:48 pm Post subject:

Paralysis is a product of both naked partisanship and letting perfect be the enemy of good. Iran is a disruptive player in the Middle East--but the same can be said about US allies Saudi Arabia and Israel. Iran is a much more modern and educated society than either Iraq or Saudi Arabia, with a certain undercurrent of resistance to the autocratic leadership. Iran was well on its way to developing nuclear weapons, and Obama, Kerry and Clinton negotiated an agreement that delayed progress towards nuclear weapons by at least a decade. Progress could not have been achieved with a bombing campaign, as advocated by Cheney, because the nuclear facilities were under mountains. Progress could not have been achieved without negotiated sanctions, which required diplomacy, and for which Clinton's part is rarely acknowledged.

Criticizing the Iran deal because it did not stop Iran's proxy war with Saudi Arabia is misguided. It's analogous to refusing to go windsurfing on a nice day because the swell isn't as big as you would like. The bet was always that providing relief from sanctions would allow more moderate elements in Iran to prevail politically. Trump has eliminated all possibility of that. Without any understanding of the benefits and costs of the Trump approach, Matty attacks it because it was an Obama accomplishment. As is often said, SAD.