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techno900



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac said: Does the old slogan fascist pig come to mind?

Tell the whole (year old story) and gain a little credibility.
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‘I want you to come now, Mami.’ A 3-year-old calls her mother from detention

Nation Jul 16, 2018 12:26 PM EDT

As the Trump administration works to meet a U.S. District Court order to reunify children forcibly separated from their parents at the southern U.S. border, several hundred children still remain in the care and custody of the U.S. government. Fifty-seven children under age 5 were reunited with their families over the last two weeks, the administration told reporters Thursday, but 46 more between the ages of zero and four, were deemed “ineligible” for reunification. The Department of Health and Human Services said it is working to identify and vet family members or potential sponsors to house those children.

The administration on Thursday listed the reasons for ineligibility. Some parents had a criminal history, some had been deported, and in some cases, the person the child was separated from was not a parent.
Sofi walks with her grandmother, shortly before being separated.

One of the children in this last category is 3-year-old Sofi, who we first met three weeks ago with her grandmother, Angelica, at a shelter in Juarez, Mexico. Sofi’s mother had crossed the U.S. border earlier, with a younger sibling. Her grandmother, who said she’s raised Sofi since she was a baby and carried guardianship documents with her from Mexico, was bringing Sofi to join the rest of the family in America. For years, she said, the family was targeted by Mexican cartels. Several family members — including Angelica’s husband, her son, daughter-in-law, and three grandchildren – were brutally murdered, she said.

“We don’t have anything [in Mexico],” Angelica told us during an interview at the shelter. “I pray for the President [Trump] to give us the opportunity to be free, to live without fear of going somewhere and fearing that they could do to us what they did to the rest of my family.”

Her grandmother, who said she’s raised Sofi since she was a baby and carried guardianship documents with her from Mexico, was bringing Sofi to join the rest of the family in America.

Angelica and Sofi walked across the bridge from Juarez to El Paso on June 20, 2018, crossing the U.S. border at a legal point of entry to make an asylum claim. They were held for two days. Angelica was released from custody on Friday, June 22, but according to her account, she was told that she could not take Sofi with her, because she was not the mother. Angelica says U.S. officials kept Sofi’s birth certificate she carried with her, but gave her back the guardianship paperwork.

Sofi’s mother says she was called and told her daughter was being taken into U.S. custody, and that a social worker would be in contact with more information in the coming days. Since then, she has been working through the reunification process – gathering documents and submitting paperwork to get her daughter released from custody. They say they’ve been given no timeline for reunification. Two weeks after the separation, Angelica suffered a stroke; her family believes it was caused by the stress of the separation. Sofi’s mother has been allowed to have three, brief phone calls with her daughter. This audio, provided by Sofi’s mother, is from the most recent call.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Techno--No gotcha here. If you think this is a full response to the horrific policies of Trump appointees at the border, and if you think this guy is not a pig you are dead wrong. And your support for Moscow Mitch is misplaced.

One could readily argue that the Democrats have taken a page from the Republicans when they held the house, and sent a number of bills to the Senate that are dead on arrival. For much of this I don't blame McConnell, he knows how hard it is to work things through to the necessary votes. But on immigration and election security he is evil incarnate.

The Senate passed an immigration bill, with Republican votes, (68-32, a veto-proof majority) that represented a rational and moderate approach to immigration. It provided a number of things that are overwhelmingly supported by most Americans including protection of the DACA youth, a pathway--difficult but possible--for long-time undocumented residents, and increased border security. It reflects the moderate Democratic position on immigration, which is support for asylum, support for strengthening borders and other mechanisms that do not reward non-asylum seekers sneaking across the border, and strategic funding.

McConnell could walk over the Pelosi's office, give her a list of 4 to 8 Senators who are willing to update the bill, and work out the details. But the hard right who are Trump's core supporters, and present in the White House in Stephen Miller, would go bonkers. Instead of working to find consensus ways to improve the current situation, Trump and his minions see this as the way to run for re-election.

Those of us who favor a moderate approach, the development of a legislative consensus, and are opposed to kidnapping children will continue to describe the zealots of the Trump administration--and his supporters--as the "know nothings" re-incarnated.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now Trump proposes new regulations that would allow indefinite jailing of children in facilities without oversight. And ending citizenship for children of immigrants born in this country. The maximum time for holding children is established in a settlement that cannot be changed by regulations. The judge and the other party must agree. Citizenship for those born in this country was established by the 14th Amendment—you know, the one that made former slaves citizens, in 1868. We now know how far back Trump wants to drag the country—prior to 1868, and preferably prior to 1860.

This is indefensible nonsense intended to rev up his base—and lose in court. Whoever is advising Trump to run on keeping kids in cages indefinitely will be out of politics in 2021, and advising Matty.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice-department-noncitizen-federal-arrests_n_5d6078e6e4b02cc97c



64% Of Federal Arrests Were Of Noncitizens Amid Immigration Crackdown

Justice Department report shows that arrests of foreign nationals spiked in 2018 — but 90% of those arrests were related to immigration, not drugs or violent crime.
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64% Of Federal Arrests Were Of Noncitizens Amid Immigration Crackdown
Justice Department report shows that arrests of foreign nationals spiked in 2018 — but 90% of those arrests were related to immigration, not drugs or violent crime.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sixth Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Sexual Abuse Within One Month in Sanctuary County in Virginia
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Sixth Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Sexual Abuse Within One Month in Sanctuary County in Virginia



remeber trump Epstein child rape ring. Epstein one of trumps rare good friends . and note trump had a lawsuit by a female who said trump violently raped her when she was 13 years old. and there were sworn affidavits to that effect by more than one person. Trump said he would sue anyone that lied about him. He did not sue or countersue. So we know it was the truth. Right-wingers love their pedophiles and wife beaters
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

real-human wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Sixth Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Sexual Abuse Within One Month in Sanctuary County in Virginia



remeber trump Epstein child rape ring. Epstein one of trumps rare good friends . and note trump had a lawsuit by a female who said trump violently raped her when she was 13 years old. and there were sworn affidavits to that effect by more than one person. Trump said he would sue anyone that lied about him. He did not sue or countersue. So we know it was the truth. Right-wingers love their pedophiles and wife beaters


Sheriff Slams Sanctuary County After Seventh Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Alleged Sexual Abuse.....in 1 month, in just 1 county.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
real-human wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
Sixth Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Sexual Abuse Within One Month in Sanctuary County in Virginia



remeber trump Epstein child rape ring. Epstein one of trumps rare good friends . and note trump had a lawsuit by a female who said trump violently raped her when she was 13 years old. and there were sworn affidavits to that effect by more than one person. Trump said he would sue anyone that lied about him. He did not sue or countersue. So we know it was the truth. Right-wingers love their pedophiles and wife beaters


Sheriff Slams Sanctuary County After Seventh Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Alleged Sexual Abuse.....in 1 month, in just 1 county.


again the statistical average of immigrants for crimes is well below the general population. Again this is way above your ability to understand. you are one of the dumbest idiots I have ever seen post. What is amazing is the top 5-10 dumbest ever i have seen post are on this forum.

epstein over 200 child pediophiles rapes, and the trump barr tag team of rapists will not go after all involved gee why.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like it or not, traumatizing children will be one of the few accomplishments of the Trump administration. The attack ads write themselves. You xenophobes must be so proud.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hhs-inspector-general-report-details-psychological-trauma-among-separated-migrant-children/
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all the political Left’s shrieks about a so-called “War on women” and a systemic “rape culture” pervasive throughout American society, the reality that some 8 in 10 women and girls are sexually assaulted during the dangerous trek from Mexico and South America to the U.S. southern border is met mostly with silence.
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