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grantmac017



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience with bigger RAF sails and Retros in particular is not positive. They just don't offer the range, stability or efficiency of something with a couple of cams.
I actually find waterstarting a larger cammed sail easier as well, but I don't let them fill with water.
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cgoudie1



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Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree, cams are a complete annoyance, unless you need to plane through big holes, sail really close to weather, or for VMG. I gave up my cams years ago and I've never looked back. If you want pull for low wind
(and why else would you be on a huge sail), Retros have that in abundance.
If it get's to up to 20MPH, I'll ride a 6M sail (or maybe smaller). Popping
the cams up on a 9M sail is good for waterstarting if you can keep them up and your luff doesn't fill with water. I'd rather waterstart a huge Retro any
day.

But what I'd really rather do is ride swells up river on a 4.2 day.

Just offering a different opinion.

-Craig

grantmac017 wrote:
My experience with bigger RAF sails and Retros in particular is not positive. They just don't offer the range, stability or efficiency of something with a couple of cams.
I actually find waterstarting a larger cammed sail easier as well, but I don't let them fill with water.
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grantmac017



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think folks who live in areas of high quality wind really don't understand a lot of what the other >90% deal with.

Given the choice we'd all like to be riding swell upriver with a 4.2 but that doesn't exist withing a 3 hour one way trip here. What does exist is a lot of 8g18, chop and adverse tides. Prior to foiling my most used summer sail was an 8.5 (plus longboard) I'd be on a 7.5 maybe once a month from May through September. In these conditions a sail with locked in shape is a far better choice.
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cgoudie1



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grantmac017 wrote:
I think folks who live in areas of high quality wind really don't understand a lot of what the other >90% deal with..


On this we can agree, my comment about 9.5 was due to sailing 25 years
in Utah where the most consistent summer winds (if you can get them ) are
about 10-15MPH on lakes with small chop and gusty winds.


grantmac017 wrote:
Given the choice we'd all like to be riding swell upriver with a 4.2 but that doesn't exist withing a 3 hour one way trip here. What does exist is a lot of 8g18, chop and adverse tides. Prior to foiling my most used summer sail was an 8.5 (plus longboard) I'd be on a 7.5 maybe once a month from May through September. In these conditions a sail with locked in shape is a far better choice.


On this, not so much, although a "locked in shape" is preferable to
a moving COE, you don't have to have cams for a plenty stable
ridable sail that busts gusts without an immediate upswing in power.

But, I understand that you like that better and that's OK. ;*)

-Craig

p.s. since the OP is looking for an 8+ M sail for a 460, a Retro 8.5 (or larger)
won't work well for him, but an 8.0 Retro could rig on a 460.
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joethewindsufa



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MauiSails TR's 8.4 fit on a 460 mast
but you better have the right mast for the 4 camber sail - hard top back in 2012
and be ready to work hard
there is one for sale near Toronto, Ontario - not too $$$

https://torontowindsurfingclub.com/resources/twc-classifieds/3-sails/1962-maui-tr8-sail-8-4m2



not sure what is going on with the forum ??
old style and slooooow ...
dooh - seems corrected now ...
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grantmac017



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A full on race sail is definitely not what I was recommending, plus his mast isn't going to play well with it.
Ezzy stuff seems fairly tolerant of softer masts and you can decide if you want the cams or not in the freeride sails.
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rtz



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the Powerex mast extension so now I'm looking for a good deal on a bigger sail plus a boom(most likely be alum chinook). Got 490 worth of mast now.
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joethewindsufa



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.mauisails.com/2016/titan#buy-sail
probably CC/constant curve ....

9-oh takes a 490 and has 3 cambers = freerace and $489 US
(corrected)


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swchandler



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe, don't you mean 3 cams?
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joethewindsufa



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ezzy Cheetah or Lion 9.5 ??
again -- cambered sails will be more mast sensitive ...
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