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rtz
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:26 am Post subject: Long or short harness lines |
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I like them long so I can feel like I can brace against the pull of the sail better. I've seen guys with them set so short it seems like the sail would be in their face. If I had short harness lines it seems like it would make me have to stand upright on the board?
If you are about to get pulled over; what is you main technique in bracing yourself again the pull of the sail? Can you brace up in such a way that it can not and will not and will never pull you over in a gust?
With really short lines; how do you not get pulled over? How are you able to brace against it?
I sail with someone who has been sailing since 1986 and on a windy day; I'm just putting around on the edge of the lake and he's hooked in; in the straps, and blasting from one side of the lake to the other, all day long; planing. Top speed. I want to be able to do that. |
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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grantmac017
Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've gone from long with a seat harness, to short and back to long.
Guys who only hook in once planing can get away with short lines and it does offer a locked-in, direct feeling.
Longer lines let you move the rig around more freely and also keep it upright which can keep more power in it.
Long or short will still pull you over if you are a reactive rather than proactive sailor, but that comes with time. |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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5'10", 160 lbs, 22" lines preferred for 4.0 to 7.5 for reaching and jumping. Course, adjustables from 22-28".
Use what you like and what fits your body type. |
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loopless
Joined: 30 Jun 1997 Posts: 426
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I have spoken to some sail and board manufacturers about this and they say that modern rigs are designed to be sailed with the rig as upright as possible - that is difficult with short lines. Old school sailors will remember sailing with the rig leaned way over... hard habits to break... |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps, like gear, dentists, and foiling, they're trying to sell toy NEW gear. |
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coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3552
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:01 am Post subject: |
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dllee wrote: | Perhaps, like gear, dentists, and foiling, they're trying to sell toy NEW gear. |
Or adjust to changing techniques. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Coachg |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Subjective?
Which is faster?
Which jumps higher?
Which jibes better?
Which allows more comfort?
Stability?
Potential more tricks?
Uphaulable?
Big or small sails?
Match sailing goals?
Is slalom even viable?
Is freestyle the only goal? |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:34 am Post subject: |
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To follow trends to stay "up" on things is sheep mentality. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Line length has been debated to nauseating lengths here. The bottom line is personal preference. Pros and intermediates alike run lines from 36" to 18", even much shorter for some very experienced Oregon coast and Gorge sailors. Once again, hard rules are for people who like to be told how to sail or tell others how they must sail. |
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